Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Croesy Blue]

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As I said, lesser of two evils. Trump's been struggling to convey the same message re the cure being worse than the disease.

I'm not sure what proof you have that this solution will cause "global economic collapse" though. We've had recessions before, yes times weren't great but there weren't days as bad as we've seen in Italy and Spain recently.

Is the cure worse than the disease, have you seen how bad things are in New York at the moment?

[Wales-Bales]

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This website is ****ing madness. Too many blokes with way to much time on their hands. The worst thing about it is that everyone thinks that they're correct on every subject they like to pontificate on, seeing something in other posters replies that simply don't exist.

All I did was post some of the goings on in the White House and Imperial College that will have a huge effect on on the outcome of the current global Corona pandemic. I think everybody should be aware of this information, and we'll as the doom & gloom stuff the media are pedaling.

[Croesy Blue]

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Greta is sad Greta.

Greta sad Greta been upstaged by pandemic.

How? hasn't it completely proved her point?

[tell it like it is]

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How? hasn't it completely proved her point?

The point behind Greta ( or more accurately her mum ) is to build the Greta brand for profit.

Books, inevitable film...

The virus has upstaged poor Greta.

[Wales-Bales]

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But there is a good chance people who aren't showing symptoms have the virus and are contangeous though, you're going to end up with loads more ill and loads more needing to use the ICU in that case.

Italy and Spain isolated anyone showing symptoms initially and it didn't do any good there, why would it work here?

Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

[Organ Morgan.]

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I'm not sure what proof you have that this solution will cause "global economic collapse" though. We've had recessions before, yes times weren't great but there weren't days as bad as we've seen in Italy and Spain recently.

Is the cure worse than the disease, have you seen how bad things are in New York at the moment?

I haven't any proof. Evidence is plentiful though. Yesterday the US published data of new unemployment claims made there. It was 3.3 million, over four times more than at any time previously which includes the depths of the 1930s Great Depression.

[Wales-Bales]

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I haven't any proof. Evidence is plentiful though. Yesterday the US published data of new unemployment claims made there. It was 3.3 million, over four times more than at any time previously which includes the depths of the 1930s Great Depression.

There is a huge difference between a recession and halting global economic activity. Keeping everybody at home for 18 months has never been tried before. How are they going to feed everybody?

[tell it like it is]

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Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

Foxy women in skimpy leather outfits? Can handle that...

[Croesy Blue]

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Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

But we have a vaccine for flu. And the fatality rate in every country has been over 0.1% for covid. Plus isn’t the issue not the death rate but the fact hospitals get overwhelmed because a lot of people need treatment? That causes more people to die.

Surely having most people working from home for a few months is going to better for the global economy than a load of people dying?

The direct death rate not being the biggest issue has been discussed so much I can’t believe people keep going back to it.

[Croesy Blue]

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There is a huge difference between a recession and halting global economic activity. Keeping everybody at home for 18 months has never been tried before. How are they going to feed everybody?

When has anyone suggested keeping people at home for 18 months?

[Wales-Bales]

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When has anyone suggested keeping people at home for 18 months?

How long are you going to do it for then? The virus will come in 3 waves, so it's pointless doing it for a few months unless you have a long-term strategy. I reckon we will see more testing and stricter quarantine conditions. Didn't China remove all of the infected people away from their communities? You'd need massive facilities to do that though.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

The research pamphlet by Fauci you posted was dated 28th February 2020. Seems he has just come out in the way that Philip Schofield has just come out!

The bit that you don't seem to or want to understand from the research article was that the 0.1% will not reached naturally, rather by all the draconian measures currently in place across the globe.

[Croesy Blue]

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How long are you going to do it for then? The virus will come in 3 waves, so it's pointless doing it for a few months unless you have a long-term strategy. I reckon we will see more testing and stricter quarantine conditions. Didn't China remove all of the infected people away from their communities? You'd need massive facilities to do that though.

China did a quarantine for around 4-6 weeks and locked down wuhan. It’ll be interesting to see what happens next there.

It’s not pointless doing it for a few months because you can flatten the curve. We may have to do it again and we may not, maybe things can be relaxed soon and maybe not.

It’s not like it stops everyone working anyway. Everyone I know is working as normal from home for now.

Either way it’s better than the situation in Italy and Spain.

[tell it like it is]

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China did a quarantine for around 4-6 weeks and locked down wuhan. It’ll be interesting to see what happens next there.

It’s not pointless doing it for a few months because you can flatten the curve. We may have to do it again and we may not, maybe things can be relaxed soon and maybe not.

It’s not like it stops everyone working anyway. Everyone I know is working as normal from home for now.

Either way it’s better than the situation in Italy and Spain.

China also sat on the virus for over 6 weeks, persecuted whistleblowers and told WHO in Jan they'd had no person to person infections. Invoking CHina in anything relating to this is an utter joke unless apportioning blame to them for the chaos caused.

[Croesy Blue]

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China also sat on the virus for over 6 weeks, persecuted whistleblowers and told WHO in Jan they'd had no person to person infections. Invoking CHina in anything relating to this is an utter joke unless apportioning blame to them for the chaos caused.

I’m not saying China are perfect but they managed to flatten the number of infections pretty well.

I work for a Chinese company and spend quite a bit of time there and work with chinese colleagues by video link every day so whilst I wouldn’t trust everything their government says, I believe they have a safe number of cases for the time being.

They should be blamed for covering it up too and face sanctions but they won’t.