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      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
      "I'm not doing anything wrong" - proceeds to delete LinkedIn profile and closes the sales website immediately.

      Sure sign of guilt.

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        It's amazing how easily greed can make people stupid!

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          The government changed the way it counts the number of covid-19 tests in order to hit its target of 100,000 tests per day by the end of April, HSJ can reveal.


          The distorted impact of political targets often ends with these types of contrivances.

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            there are people...i think that i see them almost daily , that are lacking empathy.

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              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
              https://www.hsj.co.uk/quality-and-pe...027544.article

              The distorted impact of political targets often ends with these types of contrivances.
              I didnt understand the relevance of 100k and therefore was ambivalent over whether it was reached or not. I know some people will say 'damned if they do, damned if they dont' but this target was set entirely off their own backs and wasn't based on the science. I wouldn't have criticised the government if they missed this target, manipulating the figures to make it look like a success seems worse than failing.

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                Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                I didnt understand the relevance of 100k and therefore was ambivalent over whether it was reached or not. I know some people will say 'damned if they do, damned if they dont' but this target was set entirely off their own backs and wasn't based on the science. I wouldn't have criticised the government if they missed this target, manipulating the figures to make it look like a success seems worse than failing.
                I agree. Hancock set that target and hung his own and the government's reputation on it. They haven't met it. It was bad enough when Raab started to substitute 'testing capacity' for 'completed tests' - but this change now also includes 'tests in the post' or 'tests we intend to put in the post' to mean the same as 'completed tests'. It is dishonest, self-serving and (for anyone paying attention) will just undermine trust (more) in what ministers say. Own goal!

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                  Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                  I agree. Hancock set that target and hung his own and the government's reputation on it. They haven't met it. It was bad enough when Raab started to substitute 'testing capacity' for 'completed tests' - but this change now also includes 'tests in the post' or 'tests we intend to put in the post' to mean the same as 'completed tests'. It is dishonest, self-serving and (for anyone paying attention) will just undermine trust (more) in what ministers say. Own goal!
                  Have they definitely not met the target? I'd assumed we would see a confirmation that they'd reached it at today's briefing.

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                    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                    Have they definitely not met the target? I'd assumed we would see a confirmation that they'd reached it at today's briefing.
                    They've met it and more.

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                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      Have they definitely not met the target? I'd assumed we would see a confirmation that they'd reached it at today's briefing.
                      Over 122k tests.

                      Piers Moron however is whining because they hit over 100k tests when he says it was only 73k people.

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                        Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
                        Over 122k tests.

                        Piers Moron however is whining because they hit over 100k tests when he says it was only 73k people.
                        Is that 122,000 completed tests?

                        If so it’s a step in the right direction.

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                          I noticed yesterday that all the jhouralists who kept saying gthey would never rwach the target changed their tac as soon as the realised they might and instead started saying they would reach the target but it weasd a hollow acheivement and that it didn't mean anything, and so on.
                          If they hadn't met it they same people would have been attempting to shred them for failing.

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                            Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                            They've met it and more.
                            Cleverly amending the description of "test" from "tests carried out" to "tests sent out".

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                              Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                              Is that 122,000 completed tests?

                              If so it’s a step in the right direction.
                              No, it's 122,000 tests sent out in the post.

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                                Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                                Is that 122,000 completed tests?

                                If so it’s a step in the right direction.
                                No it is not completed tests. The criteria was changed on 27th April to include the number of Home Testing kits sent in the post. It was changed again on 29th April to include tests sent to testing stations. Previously the figures stated were those for swabs actually tested in a lab.

                                So testing capacity has increased but number of tests no. Lies, damned lies and statistics comes to mind!!

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