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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by trampie09 View Post
    I'm originally from the other side of Craig y Llyn.
    So, not too far from Rhigos then? Sounds like about ten miles from me.

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      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
      So, not too far from Rhigos then? Sounds like about ten miles from me.
      Yes Glynneath

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        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
        That sounds like great news.
        Incredible news.....how’s it not out there yet with our over zealous doom media? Too much of a good news thing maybe?

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Presumably it can be given to sufferers. Good news. Another metion in there caught my attention, the comment about plasma. We heard a lot about the use of recovered peoples blood being used to treat people in hospital but nothing since in mainstream. Has anyone seen anything reported on its progress?

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
            This article is from before the MP spoke: 99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says

            The MP was stating that over 96% of Italy's COVID dead died with it and not of it, I.e. they tested positive for COVID-19 but it was incidental to what killed them.
            They all actually died of not enough oxygen.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                “The progressive daily Ethnos described Johnson as “more dangerous than coronavirus”, saying one of the crisis’s greatest tragedies was that “incompetent leaders” such as Johnson and Donald Trump were “at the helm at a time of such emergency”.

                Hard to disagree with that.

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                  “The progressive daily Ethnos described Johnson as “more dangerous than coronavirus”, saying one of the crisis’s greatest tragedies was that “incompetent leaders” such as Johnson and Donald Trump were “at the helm at a time of such emergency”.

                  Hard to disagree with that.
                  Really ? Why are the Italians so smug - they're death rate is higher than the UK.

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                    Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                    Really ? Why are the Italians so smug - they're death rate is higher than the UK.
                    “The progressive daily Ethnos” hails from Greece butty

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                      “The progressive daily Ethnos” hails from Greece butty
                      Prefer a chip butty

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        UK government set 20,000 as benchmark figure for "good result". We're sadly past that by 10,000 recorded and could be more than double when counting stops.

                        Meanwhile, brief test and trace strategy of mid-March stopped due to lack of capacity to test; capacity now increased and yet testing numbers (by government's definition) decreasing since headlines made at end of April/start of May. Next target is to increase lab processing of tests, another small step in right direction, but anyone saying this is "apparent success" should be asked why, despite having more notice than most that this was coming, we started from nothing and increased so slowly so now are playing catch-up while thousands die. Clue: it's not what the science said.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Excess death rate figures knocking about:-

                          England 44.1
                          Spain 34.74
                          Belgium 29.38
                          Netherlands 24.07
                          Italy 22.74
                          France 21.75
                          Wales 19.25
                          Scotland 17.25
                          Sweden 14.50

                          It's too shocking for words.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Over 6,000 new cases, and the death rate passes 30,000.

                            The number of case are, at best, plateauing. It doesn't seem advisable to remove restrictions at the moment. In America, cases seem to be rising still. I suspect both Trump and Johnson will lift restrictions (Trump almost entirely, Johnson in stages), and I have no confidence that a second wave will be avoided. Let's wait and see what theys actually do.

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by surge View Post
                              UK government set 20,000 as benchmark figure for "good result". We're sadly past that by 10,000 recorded and could be more than double when counting stops.

                              Meanwhile, brief test and trace strategy of mid-March stopped due to lack of capacity to test; capacity now increased and yet testing numbers (by government's definition) decreasing since headlines made at end of April/start of May. Next target is to increase lab processing of tests, another small step in right direction, but anyone saying this is "apparent success" should be asked why, despite having more notice than most that this was coming, we started from nothing and increased so slowly so now are playing catch-up while thousands die. Clue: it's not what the science said.
                              The likelihood is it already over 40,000 now

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                                Originally posted by trampie09 View Post
                                Excess death rate figures knocking about:-

                                England 44.1
                                Spain 34.74
                                Belgium 29.38
                                Netherlands 24.07
                                Italy 22.74
                                France 21.75
                                Wales 19.25
                                Scotland 17.25
                                Sweden 14.50

                                It's too shocking for words.
                                Are these the current figures for excess mortality that the government says will eventually be used to compare the impact more accurately across countries?

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