Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[adz-a32]

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I have been plugging in the numbers from Worldometers and DHSC into Excel and made these graphs

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The weekly averages seem to be decreasing and we are at a similar level as late March in deaths and in between March and April with cases. Bank holiday may have reduced the accuracy of the stats but nonetheless it looks like the situation is improving

[xsnaggle]

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The latest 3 week lock-down expired on the 25 May, Yesterday.
On every third Tuesday Mr Drakeford has been on Television and renewed the lock-down for a further 3 weeks.
He didn't renew it today and neither did the health minister.
Does this mean all the lock-down in Wales is now finished?

[CCFCC3PO]

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The latest 3 week lock-down expired on the 25 May, Yesterday.
On every third Tuesday Mr Drakeford has been on Television and renewed the lock-down for a further 3 weeks.

How come he did it last on Friday May 8th?

[xsnaggle]

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How come he did it last on Friday May 8th?

You tell me. I didn't here him say that he only that they were looking at changing some things in 3 weeks time.

[CCFCC3PO]

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You tell me. I didn't here him say that he only that they were looking at changing some things in 3 weeks time.

You said that he makes his announcements every third Tuesday. But, he doesn't. His last lockdown announcement was on May 8th which was a Friday.

Here's a link for you to read and, very likely, misinterpret.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52584690

[xsnaggle]

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He made changes to the lockdown rules on that day because that is the day after they have to be reviewed by law, as the law was passed on a Thursday. But the 3 week lockdown was begun on the Tuesday before the law was passed and is renewed on the Tuesday 3 weeks hence. Which is today!!

I'm sure you'll scour to find something wrong but you should realise by now I don't really care. you're obsessed.

[rudy gestede]

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He made changes to the lockdown rules on that day because that is the day after they have to be reviewed by law, as the law was passed on a Thursday. But the 3 week lockdown was begun on the Tuesday before the law was passed and is renewed on the Tuesday 3 weeks hence. Which is today!!

I'm sure you'll scour to find something wrong but you should realise by now I don't really care. you're obsessed.

How can you be so stupid with one head?

[CCFCC3PO]

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He made changes to the lockdown rules on that day because that is the day after they have to be reviewed by law, as the law was passed on a Thursday. But the 3 week lockdown was begun on the Tuesday before the law was passed and is renewed on the Tuesday 3 weeks hence. Which is today!!

I'm sure you'll scour to find something wrong but you should realise by now I don't really care. you're obsessed.

So you didn't read the link (I asked, obsessively sticking to the point you erroneously made, but now have your knickers in a twist about me pursuing).

Date of Article Friday May 8th (18 days ago) (3 weeks would be 21 days, i.e. May 29th)

People will be able to exercise outside more than once a day in Wales and some garden centres set to reopen, First Minister Mark Drakeford has said.

Announcing only "modest" changes to the coronavirus lockdown, Mr Drakeford warned it was "too soon" to go further.

The rest of the stay-at-home restrictions will be extended for another three weeks until 28 May.

[Baloo]

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Death rates from countries using comparable data. UK hardest hit. It's tragic.

https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0?utm_source=POLITICO.EU&utm_campaign=b532abbdd6-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_05_28_06_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_10959edeb5-b532abbdd6-190101389

[CCFCC3PO]

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Antibody samples have suggested that 7% of people in England have previously been infected with the virus according to the ONS. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52837593

Similarly, antibody tests found 7% of people Massachusetts also tested positive for antibodies.

https://www.google.com/search?q=brookline&oq=brookline&aqs=chrome..69i57j46j0l2j46j0l2j69i60.4610j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[lisvaneblue]

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Death rates from countries using comparable data. UK hardest hit. It's tragic.

https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-...bdd6-190101389

And sadly a reflection on the rather casual way our governments (UK and Wales) have handled this, seemingly always playing catch-up. The public have generally done all that has been asked of them in terms of hand washing, social distancing, stay at home etc.

Our leaders early on let sporting events continue..international rugby, Cheltenham festival. Then a declaration that the NHS was ready for anything, but it wasn’t. Lack of PPE, CCU beds, equipment, tracking and tracing, ignoring care homes. These are the things that mean the difference between life and death.

In Greece, a country that has been through an austerity episode that we can only imagine, they nailed it hard and fast, following the success of countries like South Korea.

1,000 deaths would have been too many, but 37, 000 is sickening and our leaders seem to indicate that we’ve done well

[ToTaL ITK]

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Tragically 90% of the deaths in Sweden are the over 70's
I still think they got it wrong and threw the aged under the bus to save the economy.

[Jordi Culé]

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And sadly a reflection on the rather casual way our governments (UK and Wales) have handled this, seemingly always playing catch-up. The public have generally done all that has been asked of them in terms of hand washing, social distancing, stay at home etc.

Our leaders early on let sporting events continue..international rugby, Cheltenham festival. Then a declaration that the NHS was ready for anything, but it wasn’t. Lack of PPE, CCU beds, equipment, tracking and tracing, ignoring care homes. These are the things that mean the difference between life and death.

In Greece, a country that has been through an austerity episode that we can only imagine, they nailed it hard and fast, following the success of countries like South Korea.

1,000 deaths would have been too many, but 37, 000 is sickening and our leaders seem to indicate that we’ve done well

Agree with everything you’ve said there but would suggest dropping the description of “casual” for negligent and politically motivated.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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And sadly a reflection on the rather casual way our governments (UK and Wales) have handled this, seemingly always playing catch-up. The public have generally done all that has been asked of them in terms of hand washing, social distancing, stay at home etc.

Our leaders early on let sporting events continue..international rugby, Cheltenham festival. Then a declaration that the NHS was ready for anything, but it wasn’t. Lack of PPE, CCU beds, equipment, tracking and tracing, ignoring care homes. These are the things that mean the difference between life and death.

In Greece, a country that has been through an austerity episode that we can only imagine, they nailed it hard and fast, following the success of countries like South Korea.

1,000 deaths would have been too many, but 37, 000 is sickening and our leaders seem to indicate that we’ve done well

Negligent rather than casual. Can only blame the UK govt for the late lockdown.

They did say 20,000 deaths would be good, but no one has mentioned that for a while.

[Rjk]

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And sadly a reflection on the rather casual way our governments (UK and Wales) have handled this, seemingly always playing catch-up. The public have generally done all that has been asked of them in terms of hand washing, social distancing, stay at home etc.

Our leaders early on let sporting events continue..international rugby, Cheltenham festival. Then a declaration that the NHS was ready for anything, but it wasn’t. Lack of PPE, CCU beds, equipment, tracking and tracing, ignoring care homes. These are the things that mean the difference between life and death.

In Greece, a country that has been through an austerity episode that we can only imagine, they nailed it hard and fast, following the success of countries like South Korea.

1,000 deaths would have been too many, but 37, 000 is sickening and our leaders seem to indicate that we’ve done well

Agree that we should have learned from countries that handled this better, and as I've posted elsewhere I think there was a degree of cultural arrogance that pervaded the thinking of those making the decisions in this that contributed to that.

I also think that 37000 is a very conservative estimate, most sources are talking about a number in excess of 60k in terms of excess deaths.