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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
    The police said they attended the property, the media added the reason. The Durham police have now stated that they did not visit as a result of a complaint about Cummins' presence, and they did not speak to him and his wife. The actually visited the property at Mr Cummins senior's request to discuss security of the property. It had nothing to do with Cummins or anything connected to lock-down . Another point that bothers me about this is that the Durham Police could have corrected the suggestions regarding the visit immediately but that chose not to. I wonder who made that call?
    Yes the Barnard castle visit was correct, the alleged second sighting was the lie. It seems to me that the media don't check too hard when what they hear suits their argument and do if it doesn't. It should have been easily proven that Cummins was in fact in London on the day of the alleged second visit.
    Every time the do this kind of thing they just make me doubt the honestly of anything in the media.
    And that is why you have come to the decision not to read any newspapers (real or online), but you will abstain from abstaining if something you read suits your argument.

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      Originally posted by Rjk View Post
      exactly, he admitted it himself.

      in any case the second sighting was not a lie, just someone who jumped onto the bandwagon of the second sighting was making it up.

      what is being attempted here is to muddy the waters and exhaust people's capacity for critical reasoning. and it seems like it is working.
      Well, we are talking about xsnaggle who, to be fair, isn't an atypical critical thinker. Or, even, a thinker of any description.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
        And that is why you have come to the decision not to read any newspapers (real or online), but you will abstain from abstaining if something you read suits your argument.

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
          Where did you read it?

          for "In the newspapers that I don't read (real or online)"
          Supply answer for anything else.
          I've no idea what xsnaggle reads but the points in his post earlier today that seems to have first fired him up mostly appear to have been themes in recent Daily Mail articles.

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Originally posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
            Well, we are talking about xsnaggle who, to be fair, isn't an atypical critical thinker. Or, even, a thinker of any description.

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Originally posted by Baloo View Post
              I've no idea what xsnaggle reads but the points in his post earlier today that seems to have first fired him up mostly appear to have been themes in recent Daily Mail articles.
              This cannot be possible - he has said on this forum that he doesn't read newspapers (real or online). It would be awful if he was lying, whilst spending a good part of his day attacking someone for lying.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                qed

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                  Originally posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
                  qed

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                    It had nothing to do with Cummins or anything connected to lock-down .
                    Well, this was the original Durham police statement to the press on the Friday. ‘Officers made contact with the owners of that address who confirmed that the individual in question was present and was self-isolating in part of the house. In line with national policing guidance, officers explained to the family the guidelines around self-isolation and reiterated the appropriate advice around essential travel’.

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                      Originally posted by Baloo View Post
                      Well, this was the original Durham police statement on the Friday. ‘Officers made contact with the owners of that address who confirmed that the individual in question was present and was self-isolating in part of the house. In line with national policing guidance, officers explained to the family the guidelines around self-isolation and reiterated the appropriate advice around essential travel’.
                      Yes I gathered that but now apparently they have said something else. As I have kept saying all these tales and counter tales just make it impossilbe to trust anything you read or hear most of the time In the long run none of them do themselves any favours.

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                        Yes I gathered that but now apparently they have said something else. As I have kept saying all these tales and counter tales just make it impossilbe to trust anything you read or hear most of the time In the long run none of them do themselves any favours.
                        You seemed to believe the “counter tales” easily enough

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                          The police said they attended the property, the media added the reason. The Durham police have now stated that they did not visit as a result of a complaint about Cummins' presence, and they did not speak to him and his wife. The actually visited the property at Mr Cummins senior's request to discuss security of the property. It had nothing to do with Cummins or anything connected to lock-down . Another point that bothers me about this is that the Durham Police could have corrected the suggestions regarding the visit immediately but that chose not to. I wonder who made that call?
                          Yes the Barnard castle visit was correct, the alleged second sighting was the lie. It seems to me that the media don't check too hard when what they hear suits their argument and do if it doesn't. It should have been easily proven that Cummins was in fact in London on the day of the alleged second visit.
                          Every time the do this kind of thing they just make me doubt the honestly of anything in the media.
                          I'm 90% sure you've got that wrong. I don't remember them saying that they visited for a start but they said that they spoke about self-isolation or words to that effect. The media printed what the police gave them. It was in quotes at the time - I'm sure of it.

                          If you're wrong, maybe you've been taken in by the spin

                          Edit: Just seen Baloo's post. You were massively wrong. The media didn't spin that story at all, they printed what the police said and the police later retracted it/changed their story. That's the police's fault, not the media.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                            Yes I gathered that but now apparently they have said something else. As I have kept saying all these tales and counter tales just make it impossilbe to trust anything you read or hear most of the time In the long run none of them do themselves any favours.
                            At the risk of you showing yourself to be a complete arsehole with an emoticon, but maybe you could provide a link so that we could read these "tales and counter tales"?

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                              Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                              I'm 90% you've got that wrong. I don't remember them saying that they visited for a start but they said thay they spoke about self-isolation or words to that effect. The media printed what the police gave them. It was in quotes at the time - I'm sure of it.

                              If you're wrong, maybe you've been taken in by the spin

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                                Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                                I'm 90% you've got that wrong. I don't remember them saying that they visited for a start but they said thay they spoke about self-isolation or words to that effect. The media printed what the police gave them. It was in quotes at the time - I'm sure of it.

                                If you're wrong, maybe you've been taken in by the spin
                                Maybe I have, but media being what it is we will never know which is which probably.

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