Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Hilts]

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The bad news is that there were 32 deaths in Wales, but new cases were below a thousand for the first time in a while. One day doesn't prove anything and the number of tests looks a bit lower than normal, but maybe the firebreak influence is being seen?

Im sure the firebreak will have an affect Bob but the virus is so widespread now I cant see it doing much more than bringing it down to what it was. More or less just stopping it getting much worse.

If that is the case having less restrictions than when we went into it doesnt make any sense.

I reckon with furlough now extended we will be back in lockdown before the New Year and for longer. Minimum pubs will be shut for the New Year.

[Hilts]

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RCT covid cases last 4 days

240
216
185
137.

So still high but reducing.

[Vindec]

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Come next week, it looks as though thousands of people will be travelling to Cardiff from the valleys for work by train, car and bus infecting people just because Drakeford promised not to extend the lockdown. If that isn't irresponsible I don't know what is.

[delmbox]

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Come next week, it looks as though thousands of people will be travelling to Cardiff from the valleys for work by train, car and bus infecting people just because Drakeford promised not to extend the lockdown. If that isn't irresponsible I don't know what is.

thousands of people have been travelling to Cardiff from the valleys for work by train, car and bus regardless of the lockdown. You're allowed to travel for work if required

[lisvaneblue]

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I don't see how the Welsh government will allow the firebreak to end in Merthyr and other areas with high levels of COVID. That would be thoroughly irresponsible.

In this pandemic governments need to be flexible and not make statements saying restrictions should end on a particular date come what may. So, is Drakeford saying the firebreak will end on Monday irrespective of the number of COVID cases?

Crazy...but the pubs will be open in Merthyr on Monday, the science ignored as politics take precedence.

[delmbox]

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Crazy...but the pubs will be open in Merthyr on Monday, the science ignored as politics take precedence.

whereas everybody knows the only thing that should take precedence over science is meat from your favourite butcher

[lisvaneblue]

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whereas everybody knows the only thing that should take precedence over science is meat from your favourite butcher

Wrong...no one in science has said that that you catch Covid-19 driving alone in a car with the windows closed. And don't forget when Drakeford put Lockdown 1 in place neither Cardiff nor Brecon had the sort of incidence of infection that's around now. The 5 mile travel rule was another example of politics taking precedence. Stupid rule that made Wales look daft.

[Hilts]

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whereas everybody knows the only thing that should take precedence over science is meat from your favourite butcher

😂😂😂😂😂

[Vindec]

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thousands of people have been travelling to Cardiff from the valleys for work by train, car and bus regardless of the lockdown. You're allowed to travel for work if required

Wouldn't it also mean thousands of people from high COVID areas walking around the city centre, visiting cafes, pubs, bars, and shops etc during lunchtimes and after work which is additional to what happens at the moment?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Wrong...no one in science has said that that you catch Covid-19 driving alone in a car with the windows closed. And don't forget when Drakeford put Lockdown 1 in place neither Cardiff nor Brecon had the sort of incidence of infection that's around now. The 5 mile travel rule was another example of politics taking precedence. Stupid rule that made Wales look daft.

Come off it. Since March lots has been learned about the virus, how it spreads, what we can do as a society etc. There appears now to be a priority that kids should go to school so parents can work. Lockdown once virus rates get too high. Earlier on in the year, politicians around the UK and further afield were veering on the ultra defensive side with virus prevention the priority. Some rules were made that didn't make much sense, but the overwhelming rule was that people needed to stay at home and travel as little and stay as near to home as possible.

You've used dozens of excuses as to why you should have been able to go to Brecon. I'm absolutely certain if Boris Johnson had come out with the 5 mile rule and the Welsh Government had done something differently, it would still have been the fault of the Welsh Government according to you.

[Heisenberg]

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Come off it. Since March lots has been learned about the virus, how it spreads, what we can do as a society etc. There appears now to be a priority that kids should go to school so parents can work. Lockdown once virus rates get too high. Earlier on in the year, politicians around the UK and further afield were veering on the ultra defensive side with virus prevention the priority. Some rules were made that didn't make much sense, but the overwhelming rule was that people needed to stay at home and travel as little and stay as near to home as possible.

You've used dozens of excuses as to why you should have been able to go to Brecon. I'm absolutely certain if Boris Johnson had come out with the 5 mile rule and the Welsh Government had done something differently, it would still have been the fault of the Welsh Government according to you.

Nailed it.

[lisvaneblue]

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Come off it. Since March lots has been learned about the virus, how it spreads, what we can do as a society etc. There appears now to be a priority that kids should go to school so parents can work. Lockdown once virus rates get too high. Earlier on in the year, politicians around the UK and further afield were veering on the ultra defensive side with virus prevention the priority. Some rules were made that didn't make much sense, but the overwhelming rule was that people needed to stay at home and travel as little and stay as near to home as possible.

You've used dozens of excuses as to why you should have been able to go to Brecon. I'm absolutely certain if Boris Johnson had come out with the 5 mile rule and the Welsh Government had done something differently, it would still have been the fault of the Welsh Government according to you.

As you know by now I do obey the rules. A lot has been learned about the virus and basically how it spreads. Its also known that alone in a car there is no way you can catch the virus. So I couldn't drive to a butchers in Brecon as its more than 5 miles from home, but I could drive to Rhiwbina and visit a butcher there.

It makes as much sense as the 'non essential ' items in supermarkets being blocked off. These stupid embellishments that the Senedd seem to enjoy throwing in the mix distract from their main messages and confuse people.

I noted that a new rule has been added for tomorrow. People will not be allowed to spend more than 2 hours in a pub or restaurant. Why add that to already comprehensive rules and regulations? It means people out for an evening are more likely to have move from place to place.

People need simple straightforward messages that they can make sense of.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I noted that a new rule has been added for tomorrow. People will not be allowed to spend more than 2 hours in a pub or restaurant. Why add that to already comprehensive rules and regulations? It means people out for an evening are more likely to have move from place to place. People need simple straightforward messages that they can make sense of.

Apparently, this isn't a rule as such. It's a 'rule of thumb'. And it is, of course, utter nonsense.

[Tuerto]

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I was being flippant. However, it has often felt (to me at least) that Drakeford and Co are determined to do things differently to Johnson and his minions regardless of the circumstances. After all, if Wales has some of the highest infection rates in the UK, does it make any sense to start relaxing restrictions here? Is that really an example of following the science?

Maybe the Science is saying that Lockdown isn't working, as the ***** can't stay out each overs houses.

[Tuerto]

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As you know by now I do obey the rules. A lot has been learned about the virus and basically how it spreads. Its also known that alone in a car there is no way you can catch the virus. So I couldn't drive to a butchers in Brecon as its more than 5 miles from home, but I could drive to Rhiwbina and visit a butcher there.

It makes as much sense as the 'non essential ' items in supermarkets being blocked off. These stupid embellishments that the Senedd seem to enjoy throwing in the mix distract from their main messages and confuse people.

I noted that a new rule has been added for tomorrow. People will not be allowed to spend more than 2 hours in a pub or restaurant. Why add that to already comprehensive rules and regulations? It means people out for an evening are more likely to have move from place to place.

People need simple straightforward messages that they can make sense of.

Certain people would moan whatever the decision, outcome etc.