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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by Vindec View Post
    So we seem to agree that NHS staff not on the front line such as Admin staff shouldn't receive priority. Where we differ is that I think staff on the front line should receive priority and you think the elderly should be first in the queue. The elderly had the opportunity to prevent getting the virus whereas health professionals working on the front line are required to do their job. They have no choice. Additionally the NHS has a duty of care particularly to their front line staff. We are not going to agree.
    My wife is an NHS pharmaceuticals buyer who although working form home works long into the night (unpaid after 5pm) to ensure that everything needed is available where it needs to be and when. If she got ill (although not on the frontline) there'd be a big problem. She will get a jab early, and so she bloody should for all our benefits

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      Originally posted by tomcat View Post
      My wife is an NHS pharmaceuticals buyer who although working form home works long into the night (unpaid after 5pm) to ensure that everything needed is available where it needs to be and when. If she got ill (although not on the frontline) there'd be a big problem. She will get a jab early, and so she bloody should for all our benefits
      Interesting debate and Im sure if your wife was ill it would have a knock on consequences, just as a teacher getting ill or a nurse...and I could go on. This is happening now through Covid infection directly, or through workmates or children catching it and forcing people to self isolate.

      Then there are the hundreds of thousands being furloughed or made redundant through no fault of their own and the 'big problems' that causes them and their families.

      The experts say vaccinate the elderly first. Why?...because they are the group that is causing the logjam in hospitals. They are the group that take up most of the critical care beds.They are the group where 90% of the deaths occur...and that too has extreme knock on consequences for their families.

      Newspapers report that NHS England will vaccinate NHS staff first. Northern Ireland will vaccinate the elderly first. Wales has yet to show its hand, but as the health minister has announced that he's seeking the advice of the immunisation experts I believe Wales will go with a similar approach to Northern Ireland.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Good Christmas present for someone. It could be popular on here:

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          North Wales Police said trail cameras showed a car leaving Clocaenog Forest with a Christmas tree.


          I hope they take his balls off him too.

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Hopefully

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Pfiizer vaccines to start in the UK next week;-

              The UK is the first country to approve the Pfizer vaccine - with 800,000 doses due to arrive soon.

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                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                Pfiizer vaccines to start in the UK next week;-

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55145696
                Normality by easter, or maybe earlier?

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                  Interesting debate and Im sure if your wife was ill it would have a knock on consequences, just as a teacher getting ill or a nurse...and I could go on. This is happening now through Covid infection directly, or through workmates or children catching it and forcing people to self isolate.

                  Then there are the hundreds of thousands being furloughed or made redundant through no fault of their own and the 'big problems' that causes them and their families.

                  The experts say vaccinate the elderly first. Why?...because they are the group that is causing the logjam in hospitals. They are the group that take up most of the critical care beds.They are the group where 90% of the deaths occur...and that too has extreme knock on consequences for their families.

                  Newspapers report that NHS England will vaccinate NHS staff first. Northern Ireland will vaccinate the elderly first. Wales has yet to show its hand, but as the health minister has announced that he's seeking the advice of the immunisation experts I believe Wales will go with a similar approach to Northern Ireland.
                  America has announced it will do health care workers first

                  Then care home residents.

                  Hasn't announced any further yet but on CNN it was suggesting they would do other emergency services next ( police firefighters etc) followed by those who were vulnerable ( including all over 65's)

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                    Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
                    America has announced it will do health care workers first

                    Then care home residents.

                    Hasn't announced any further yet but on CNN it was suggesting they would do other emergency services next ( police firefighters etc) followed by those who were vulnerable ( including all over 65's)
                    BBC reports this morning that the Pfizer vaccine has been approved for use in UK. They say that elderly in care homes will get it first. Vaccination will be rolled out from next week

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                      BBC reports this morning that the Pfizer vaccine has been approved for use in UK. They say that elderly in care homes will get it first. Vaccination will be rolled out from next week
                      Great news finally....hopefully most who need it will get it by Easter

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                        The amount purchased will protect about 10 million people.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                          The amount purchased will protect about 10 million people.
                          Hopefully the Moderna and Oxford ones will get approved and that would give us more than enough to do the whole country.

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                            Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                            Hopefully the Moderna and Oxford ones will get approved and that would give us more than enough to do the whole country.
                            The actual number pre ordered from various pharmaceutical companies is huge. 100m of the Oxford vaccine alone.

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                              Welsh figures are back up to pre Firebreak levels looking at these on the back of similar figures yesterday, I suppose it needs two or three more days like them to be sure it is as bad as it's beginning to look;-

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                                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                                Welsh figures are back up to pre Firebreak levels looking at these on the back of similar figures yesterday, I suppose it needs two or three more days like them to be sure it is as bad as it's beginning to look;-

                                https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary
                                there is slightly.more testing being done now, but yeah it does t look good

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