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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    There is no doubt in my mind that suspension of the AZ vaccine by individual EU member states is a political one. The EMA and MHRA confirm that those given the current Covid-19 jabs show no more incidence of blood clots than in the general population.
    That's not, by the way, to say they cause blood clots, because there is no evidence that they do, just if you've had a jab you are as unlikely to develop a blood clot as if you hadn't had a jab.
    The MHRA and EMA are rigorous in their monitoring of drug side effects and you only have to look on their websites to see just how thorough they are in their medicine appraisals.
    It's nice to have the clarity of thought on this such that all doubt is removed.

    For my part I don't know enough about Danish politics to understand its domestic and international political motivations is being the first country in the EU to pause use of the Astra Zeneca vaccine.

    I certainly don't understand the political rationale of Sweden, which has skin in the Astra Zeneca game and no reported cases of clotting or platelet reducing side effects, deciding it is politically expedient to reduce confidence in the vaccine one of its companies has developed. Nor do I understand what the political drivers for the non-EU countries of Norway and Iceland are in following their lead.

    There is certainly a politically dimension of the largest member states of Germany, France, Italy and Spain so publicly been seen to consult and act in concert with each other, though other than to create a pretext for their own inability to vaccinate their populations it is difficult to understand the wider political rationale.

    In any event this has been a political crisis from the off. Decisions on when and where to start lockdowns, how to source materials and manage testing, how and when to control borders have all been political decisions. And that is perfectly right and proper as it should be politicians that are held accountable for their actions by their own people.

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      Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
      It's nice to have the clarity of thought on this such that all doubt is removed.

      For my part I don't know enough about Danish politics to understand its domestic and international political motivations is being the first country in the EU to pause use of the Astra Zeneca vaccine.

      I certainly don't understand the political rationale of Sweden, which has skin in the Astra Zeneca game and no reported cases of clotting or platelet reducing side effects, deciding it is politically expedient to reduce confidence in the vaccine one of its companies has developed. Nor do I understand what the political drivers for the non-EU countries of Norway and Iceland are in following their lead.

      There is certainly a politically dimension of the largest member states of Germany, France, Italy and Spain so publicly been seen to consult and act in concert with each other, though other than to create a pretext for their own inability to vaccinate their populations it is difficult to understand the wider political rationale.

      In any event this has been a political crisis from the off. Decisions on when and where to start lockdowns, how to source materials and manage testing, how and when to control borders have all been political decisions. And that is perfectly right and proper as it should be politicians that are held accountable for their actions by their own people.
      My earlier comments related to EU member states. Sweden is a bit different in that the Swedish equivalent of the EMA has banned its use until the findings of the EMA investigation into blood clots are concluded. The EMA has not banned it, rather saying that they believe it safe but will investigate further.

      If any link between the drug and blood clots is proven I predict the EMA will urge caution in certain groups but not ban it. It is too valuable in the fight against Covid. To date of course the group receiving AZ vaccine have been of the ages that are more prone to blood clots anyhow.

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          If you haven't got any covid symptons can you still ask for a covid test to be done in Wales right now , if so how do you go about it ?

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            Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
            If you haven't got any covid symptons can you still ask for a covid test to be done in Wales right now , if so how do you go about it ?
            not in Wales ( so not much help ) but our local test centre is walk up after 1 pm and you can ask for a test to take home, my fellow football coach had 10 of them yesterday, he works in peoples homes, so is planning to test himself every 4th day ( like the sch kids do )

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              yes blue matt sod all help in wales for someone like me who needs to have a lateral covid test for works purposes

              got to go a to a walk in centre in England on monday

              seems like wales is so far behind in these things

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                Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                yes blue matt sod all help in wales for someone like me who needs to have a lateral covid test for works purposes

                got to go a to a walk in centre in England on monday

                seems like wales is so far behind in these things
                you working away then ? ? ? you could grab a few for the next time

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                  yes working for a company that wants me to have one of these tests as i work between 2 sites within the same company in England

                  company policy so they say

                  rang 911 and they told me sorry sir can't help me as i,m in Wales there is no support !

                  you need to have symptons to get a test done in wales

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                    Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                    yes working for a company that wants me to have one of these tests as i work between 2 sites within the same company in England

                    company policy so they say

                    rang 911 and they told me sorry sir can't help me as i,m in Wales there is no support !

                    you need to have symptons to get a test done in wales
                    I could have popped and got a few and sent you them, but its not going to get to you by then, so no help

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                      makes me mad with all these rules between the home nations with different rules

                      Krankie up in Scotland and Drakeford here really need to align with the rest of the UK and form a common policy

                      i won't hold my breath tho

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                        Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                        makes me mad with all these rules between the home nations with different rules

                        Krankie up in Scotland and Drakeford here really need to align with the rest of the UK and form a common policy

                        i won't hold my breath tho
                        It's so feckin' lazy to suggest that things would be better if Wales and Scotland signed up to one approach because a) that's what they've asked for at several times and it hasn't happened because England has often wanted to be an outlier and b) at several important moments (not all) Scotland or Wales have done it correctly and/or better - England's plan during the winter lead to huge numbers of deaths that was largely avoided in Wales.

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                          I keep seeing the line 'EU is having vaccine problems because it was too slow in negotiating contracts' repeated in United Kingdom and United States media.

                          I want to push back on this narrative because I think it's missing where real EU-level mistakes lie. Let's review what happened in past year....

                          (thread: https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/stat...97635577761803)

                          EU assumed good behavior. US & UK manoeuvred to benefit themselves.

                          Many EU countries flubbed vaccine rollouts. EU negotiations & approval maybe took too long.

                          But what's striking is, for many in US & UK there seems to be 1 set of rules for them and another for everyone else.
                          More to the vaccine story.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                            yes working for a company that wants me to have one of these tests as i work between 2 sites within the same company in England

                            company policy so they say

                            rang 911 and they told me sorry sir can't help me as i,m in Wales there is no support !

                            you need to have symptons to get a test done in wales
                            You called 911?

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                              sorry 119

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                                Doesn’t look like holidays abroad will happen this summer......

                                Covid: Summer holidays abroad 'unlikely', warns government adviser https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56467813

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