Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

[ninian opinian]

Remember how Nadhim Zahawi was accused of tax avoidance by using an offshore company to hold shares in his YouGov firm, and how his lawyers aggressively threatened to sue anyone saying so? Well it was true and he's now agreed to pay millions to HMRC to settle up.

And he was temporarily made chancellor by the blonde Buffon, who was warned about his tax avoidance.

Do the right thing and RESIGN!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/15/nadhim-zahawi-to-pay-millions-in-tax-after-dispute-over-family-finances

This bunch really are the dregs of society.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Tosspots

[Gofer Blue]

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Of all the Tory ministers (when he was one!) Zahawi is the one I most disliked. IMO he is the stereotypical oleaginous politician. When Sunak quit as chancellor, Zahawi was handed the job by Johnson. A day after his appointment Zahawi told Johnson he should resign! He then stood for election to PM but was (thankfully) shown the door in the first round with only 25 votes. He then backed Liz Truss for the job and when she resigned Zahawi supported Sunak's bid to become Conservative leader. Sunak appointed Zahawi as the Chairman of the Conservative Party, but interestingly not a member of the cabinet.

So to read about this tax business comes as no surprise at all. Just waiting now to hear the cry of "but I've done nothing illegal".

[Dorcus]

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Didn't the tosspot also filch thousands of pounds of taxpayer's money in expenses as heating for his horse stables?

[JamesWales]

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Remember how Nadhim Zahawi was accused of tax avoidance by using an offshore company to hold shares in his YouGov firm, and how his lawyers aggressively threatened to sue anyone saying so? Well it was true and he's now agreed to pay millions to HMRC to settle up.

And he was temporarily made chancellor by the blonde Buffon, who was warned about his tax avoidance.

Do the right thing and RESIGN!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/15/nadhim-zahawi-to-pay-millions-in-tax-after-dispute-over-family-finances

This bunch really are the dregs of society.

"this bunch" who are are stereotyping here and judging them all based on the supposed behaviour of one?

This happens in your party too. In fact entire councils have been involved in that. I don't remember the thread on this. Should all Labour councils be found guilty as a result?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/embarrassment-for-labour-after-two-councils-found-to-have-avoided-12m-in-tax

[Doucas]

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"this bunch" who are are stereotyping here and judging them all based on the supposed behaviour of one?

This happens in your party too. In fact entire councils have been involved in that. I don't remember the thread on this. Should all Labour councils be found guilty as a result?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/ar...ded-12m-in-tax

It's not the behaviour of one though is it? The amount of corruption in right wing tories is beyond.

Embarrassing even for you.

[JamesWales]

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It's not the behaviour of one though is it? The amount of corruption in right wing tories is beyond.

Embarrassing even for you.

No, as per you take the behaviour of one and apply it to all. It's a foolish thing to do because if you justify that kind of thinking thrn it legitimises others doing it.

You should Google 'Labour MP' suspended and you'll get a huge raft of stories. Doesn't mean that it applies to them all. The fact you seemingly are unaware of such behaviour is presumably because you self censor by getting your news via social media?

[ninian opinian]

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Here you go again with your whataboutery. Mumbling on about others not calling out those who do wrong whilst not calling this tax avoiding parasite out for what he is.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Here you go again with your whataboutery. Mumbling on about others not calling out those who do wrong whilst not calling this tax avoiding parasite out for what he is.

I know James is slowly moving through the gears after a well earned rest but the best he was able to come up with in seeking whatabouttery equivalence is googling "Labour tax avoidance" and finding a 5 year old story. There is apparently no difference between councils saving money for their services by avoiding stamp duty and a very rich politician setting up complex financial structures, stating they are not a beneficiary from them and setting his lawyers on anyone probing the truth. He has obviously got some way to go before he reaches cruising speed.

This is someone who, despite warnings from officials familiar with his tax affairs was deemed suitable by the Conservative government to be Chancellor of the Exchequer with oversight of the very tax code he has now been made to succumb to. I mean if as he says “he does not have, and never has had, an interest in Balshore Investments and he is not a beneficiary” one wonders why such a paragon of probity and virtue has decided to pay the relevant taxes at all.

[JamesWales]

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My point seems to have gone over your heads. It's not a defence of Nadhim Zahawi it is a defence of logic. Because he has supposedly done something wrong that doesn't mean all Tories (or all men or all Muslims or all English people etc) should be tarred with that brush.

Incidentally, he has paid the tax and as the Independent states here: "There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by Mr Zahawi"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nadhim-zahawi-tax-hmrc-investigation-b2262565.html

I cited the story from 2017 because it refers to tax avoidance. There are more recent examples and many examples of poor or illegal politician behaviour from all parties.

Some of you set yourselves us as moral arbiters but if that's the case you would raise these issues irrespective of the party involved. But you never do.

This article says there's been 7 (Seven!) Labour Maps jailed in ten years

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1517721/andrew-marr-keir-starmer-claudia-webb-seven-labour-mps-jail-sentence-tory-sleaze-vn

Only a fool would mean that means all Labour MPs are guilty however, yet Ninian Opinion says that the Nahim Zahawi story proves 'this bunch' are the 'dregs of society'. If so then can we consider the party with 7 jailed MPs also dregs? Or shall we actuslly be less knee jerk about it?

It's just boring more than anything. If you are interested in corruption in politics then you are interested in it irrespective of parties.

If you just want CCMB to be a party political circle jerk can't you just swap eachothers numbers and set up a WhatsApp group? Just an idea.

[Gofer Blue]

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As I predicted, here it comes.....

Incidentally, he has paid the tax and as the Independent states here: "There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by Mr Zahawi"

Interesting that he only paid the tax he owed after an investigation by HMRC!!

[cyril evans awaydays]

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My point seems to have gone over your heads. It's not a defence of Nadhim Zahawi it is a defence of logic. Because he has supposedly done something wrong that doesn't mean all Tories (or all men or all Muslims or all English people etc) should be tarred with that brush.

Incidentally, he has paid the tax and as the Independent states here: "There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by Mr Zahawi"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nadhim-zahawi-tax-hmrc-investigation-b2262565.html

I cited the story from 2017 because it refers to tax avoidance. There are more recent examples and many examples of poor or illegal politician behaviour from all parties.

Some of you set yourselves us as moral arbiters but if that's the case you would raise these issues irrespective of the party involved. But you never do.

This article says there's been 7 (Seven!) Labour Maps jailed in ten years

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1517721/andrew-marr-keir-starmer-claudia-webb-seven-labour-mps-jail-sentence-tory-sleaze-vn

Only a fool would mean that means all Labour MPs are guilty however, yet Ninian Opinion says that the Nahim Zahawi story proves 'this bunch' are the 'dregs of society'. If so then can we consider the party with 7 jailed MPs also dregs? Or shall we actuslly be less knee jerk about it?

It's just boring more than anything. If you are interested in corruption in politics then you are interested in it irrespective of parties.

If you just want CCMB to be a party political circle jerk can't you just swap eachothers numbers and set up a WhatsApp group? Just an idea.

Obviously your point was not a defence of Zahawi as, until this post, you never made one. Simply pointed somewhere else. Each time you do it you seem to be casting your net wider. This time to include five politicians (five!) who were jailed as a result of the 2009 Parliamentary Expenses scandal. Ironically based on a decision of the then Director of Public Prosecutions, Sir Keir Starmer. Perhaps you could mention John Stonehouse next if you want to amplify your point.

I happen to agree that you can't damn a whole party because of the actions of some. Starmer may not be the flavour of the month in the Circle Jerk Group (as you so elegantly put it) but he has run a tight ship as far as MPs behaviour is concerned.

There is a reasonable contrast on how the various Conservative Governments in this Parliament have treated its miscreants, through Patterson and Pincher and the others under Parliamentary scrutiny where whips were suddenly restored just before important votes.

I can't recall anyone defending Onasanya or Webbe, the two recent examples of Labour MPs doing appalling things but it was good of you to recognise that chastising corruption in politics should be party neutral.

[the other bob wilson]

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I know James is slowly moving through the gears after a well earned rest but the best he was able to come up with in seeking whatabouttery equivalence is googling "Labour tax avoidance" and finding a 5 year old story. There is apparently no difference between councils saving money for their services by avoiding stamp duty and a very rich politician setting up complex financial structures, stating they are not a beneficiary from them and setting his lawyers on anyone probing the truth. He has obviously got some way to go before he reaches cruising speed.

This is someone who, despite warnings from officials familiar with his tax affairs was deemed suitable by the Conservative government to be Chancellor of the Exchequer with oversight of the very tax code he has now been made to succumb to. I mean if as he says “he does not have, and never has had, an interest in Balshore Investments and he is not a beneficiary” one wonders why such a paragon of probity and virtue has decided to pay the relevant taxes at all.

Don’t tell him you’re having gammon for dinner tonight whatever you do.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Remember how Nadhim Zahawi was accused of tax avoidance by using an offshore company to hold shares in his YouGov firm, and how his lawyers aggressively threatened to sue anyone saying so? Well it was true and he's now agreed to pay millions to HMRC to settle up.

And he was temporarily made chancellor by the blonde Buffon, who was warned about his tax avoidance.

Do the right thing and RESIGN!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/15/nadhim-zahawi-to-pay-millions-in-tax-after-dispute-over-family-finances

This bunch really are the dregs of society.

Pigs in troughs are all the same, give them power and money they will try and abuse it, it starts from the first run on the ladder, they get greedier and greedier the higher they clime.

I haven't read it but it's wrong, but if he hasn't broken the law and has repaid it then that's it. It's happened before and will happen again.

[JamesWales]

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Don’t tell him you’re having gammon for dinner tonight whatever you do.

All he has to fear is me inviting myself round. Gammon and eggs are probably my favourite pub meal. Esp with thick chunky chips. The best places will let me swap the pineapple for a second egg too