Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

He should have resigned to save Sunak more embarrassment- as it is, Sunak ends up still looking weak despite him sacking someone.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

It's an amazing coincidence that the investigation concluded just in time for the Sunday political shows

[ninian opinian]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

He should have resigned to save Sunak more embarrassment- as it is, Sunak ends up still looking weak despite him sacking someone.

He had to be forced into it don’t forget. Weeks and weeks of supporting him, knowing full well what he’d been up to. They all knew, every single one of them.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

He had to be forced into it don’t forget. Weeks and weeks of supporting him, knowing full well what he’d been up to. They all knew, every single one of them.

No the investigation has only just concluded, how could anybody have known? Rishi has acted decisively with the information presented to him.

Or something like that

[superfeathers]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Stuff like this must be frustrating for those who have defended what he’s said and done

[JamesWales]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

I don't think anyone has defended it, primarily because none of us, least of all the politburo on CCMB what he actually did.

Accusations are frequently made in workplaces and politica. Tax affairs can be complex and it's absolutely right that an independent investigation was started and that's been done in a week or so and now he's been sacked.

Is that not a decent template for how these things should happen? How in a liberal democracy should this be done differently?

[ninian opinian]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

I don't think anyone has defended it, primarily because none of us, least of all the politburo on CCMB what he actually did.

Accusations are frequently made in workplaces and politica. Tax affairs can be complex and it's absolutely right that an independent investigation was started and that's been done in a week or so and now he's been sacked.

Is that not a decent template for how these things should happen? How in a liberal democracy should this be done differently?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

I don't think anyone has defended it, primarily because none of us, least of all the politburo on CCMB what he actually did.

Accusations are frequently made in workplaces and politica. Tax affairs can be complex and it's absolutely right that an independent investigation was started and that's been done in a week or so and now he's been sacked.

Is that not a decent template for how these things should happen? How in a liberal democracy should this be done differently?

Except the politburo, as you call it, has been proved to, again, be correct when it comes to this inept and corrupt Government.

[JamesWales]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

How would you do it differently?

[The Bloop]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Just for reference below is one of HMRCs factsheets about penalty levels for non-compliance regarding income received overseas.
He's got off lightly with a 30% penalty imo.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/compliance-checks-penalties-for-income-tax-and-capital-gains-tax-for-offshore-matters-ccfs17/compliance-checks-penalties-for-offshore-non-compliance-ccfs17

[JamesWales]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Except the politburo, as you call it, has been proved to, again, be correct when it comes to this inept and corrupt Government.

Is this not an example of a government that has just acted in the right way? Would you not have had an independent investigation?

[ninian opinian]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Is this not an example of a government that has just acted in the right way? Would you not have had an independent investigation?

Come on, I know they knew, you know they knew and they know they knew.

He said he was being smeared and threatened to sue reporters. He did not declare he was under investigation by HMRC when he was head of HMRC FFS.

But still you try and defend the indefensible.

Now why was Sue Ellen reappointed by Sunak when she broke the ministerial code only weeks before?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Is this not an example of a government that has just acted in the right way? Would you not have had an independent investigation?

A Government whose members were behaving in the right way would not have needed the investigation in the first place. You’re-reduced to using semantics now after making yourself look stupid by attacking the very people who were in the right in this case all along.

With that, I’m off because, frankly,it’s painful watching you trying to defend the indefensible when it comes to the morals of the Conservative Party.

[superfeathers]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Nobody in his party defended him? I’d think even the fact he wasn’t suspended was a defence in itself.

As far as having an investigation is concerned, I understand that when it comes to he said / she said situations, bullying and so on. With this case it’s as simple as whether Sunak had any faith in HMRC. It’s open and shut and I hope too much money wasn’t spent by the government investigating a government investigation

[JamesWales]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

A Government whose members were behaving in the right way would not have needed the investigation in the first place. You’re-reduced to using semantics now after making yourself look stupid by attacking the very people who were in the right in this case all along.

With that, I’m off because, frankly,it’s painful watching you trying to defend the indefensible when it comes to the morals of the Conservative Party.

I'm saying that when accusations are made then an investigation should follow and if he's found to have done something wrogn then hes sacked. And that's whats happened.

It's not a case of someone being caught on camera punching someone. It's a tax issue. It's complex and he's been investigated and gone.

This is what all parties do, it's not a party political thing. You may want to 'string him up' based on an allegation but that doesn't get us anywhere really does it?

You get examples like this pretty often:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11498651/Sacked-Tory-MP-Conor-Burns-cleared-misconduct-Launches-withering-assessment-ex-PM-Liz-Truss.html