Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

[life on mars]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Yeah an accusation of sexual misconduct is exactly the same as someone who has been penalised by HMRC, where there has been an investigation already completed. Gotcha.

This is nothing to do with left and right, it's about a former chancellor cheating the country out of taxes. I'm still none the wiser what they investigated that HMRC hadn't already.

The only thing I'm surprised by is that the whole country isn't angrier about him being allowed to stay in post so long, but that might be indicative of where we've got to.

Perhaps given half a chance folk would do the same , what I dont get in these cases why the individual doesn't temporary step aside for teh sake of his family , pride and party , and simply say i will abide by the investigation and its full findings , with the public getting to see that outcome seeing as he was elected by them .


It is a crime to cheat on your taxes. In a recent year, however, fewer than 2,000 people were convicted of tax crimes —0.0022% of all taxpayers. This number is astonishingly small, taking into account that the IRS estimates that 15.5% of us are not complying with the tax laws in some way or another.

individuals account for 8% (£2.5 billion) of the overall tax gap and, at 5% (£1.5 billion),

wealthy individuals have the smallest tax gap by customer group

failure to take reasonable care (19%), criminal attacks (16%), non-payment (15%) and evasion (15%) are the main reasons for the tax gap by behaviour, not a single left winger in there

[The Bloop]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

The fact that he chose not to declare a potential conflict of interest 7 times is what makes him such a slimeball. That on top of his letter yesterday makes me glad he's gone.
He should have gone sooner, but on the brightside, his £1.3m penalty will pay for about 15 or more of the new new ambulances announced earlier.

[The Bloop]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

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It is a crime to cheat on your taxes. In a recent year, however, fewer than 2,000 people were convicted of tax crimes —0.0022% of all taxpayers. This number is astonishingly small, taking into account that the IRS estimates that 15.5% of us are not complying with the tax laws in some way or another.

Not sure if you're referecing the USA there but to convict someone of a tax crime is a long and drawn out affair going through the courts, and only taken on as a criminal matter in the most serious of cases.
Many many more are dealt with as Civil cases, as with Zahawi. If every such instance went through the courts it would cost the public purse more than it would end up recovering.

[ninian opinian]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Two donors brought in by Rishi Sunak to run the Conservative Party have been dragged into tax dodging row

https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1620160266972598273?s=46&t=zQBvkwqNnMH2M4YVdwQAvg

You couldn’t make it up.

[Dave Blue]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

He hasn’t ‘gone’ though. He’s still in his MP job, bold as brass. Unrepentant. His arrogance and entitlement oozes from every pore. The likes of James defend him.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

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It is a crime to cheat on your taxes. In a recent year, however, fewer than 2,000 people were convicted of tax crimes —0.0022% of all taxpayers. This number is astonishingly small, taking into account that the IRS estimates that 15.5% of us are not complying with the tax laws in some way or another.

Not sure if you're referecing the USA there but to convict someone of a tax crime is a long and drawn out affair going through the courts, and only taken on as a criminal matter in the most serious of cases.
Many many more are dealt with as Civil cases, as with Zahawi. If every such instance went through the courts it would cost the public purse more than it would end up recovering.

It's another LoM cut and paste job but from an American website https://taxattorneydaily.com/tax-law...ax-crimes/?amp :facepalm:

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Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Remarkable how many of you are so up in arms about this. The guy has paid a penalty. He's lost his job within 10 days. What does it matter if he did it after one day (before all the facts had been established). Pretty certain when the shoe is on the left foot you would be content with an investigation concluding in a week and the same happening.

Remember Conor Burns a few months ago? String him up! String him up! Was completely exonerated a few months later.

Some criticisms are valid but I struggle to see beyond party political games here tbh.

The man was in charge of the nation's cash, all the while knowing he was using a tax avoidance scheme to avoid paying his fair share.

the two are not the same.

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Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

He hasn’t ‘gone’ though. He’s still in his MP job, bold as brass. Unrepentant. His arrogance and entitlement oozes from every pore. The likes of James defend him.

In fairness, its bloody difficult to be removed as an MP. an MP can be removed by his constituents or if they have received a criminal conviction that results in giving his majesty pleasure for a year or more.

[superfeathers]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

In fairness, its bloody difficult to be removed as an MP. an MP can be removed by his constituents or if they have received a criminal conviction that results in giving his majesty pleasure for a year or more.

It's not hard to remove the whip though.
So Rishi is still happy to have a tax dodger as part of the party while he governs with integrity, professionalism and accountability

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Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

It's not hard to remove the whip though.
So Rishi is still happy to have a tax dodger as part of the party while he governs with integrity, professionalism and accountability

When HMRC open an enquiry, the starting point for any penalty applied is 10%, based on whether the taxpayer sings like a canary, accepts a mistake was made, provides the evidence in support and coughs up the readies. Penalties can rise upwards of 100% when HMRC assess the taxpayer has deliberately concealed the tax due and has gone out of their way, even after the enquiry has started, to continue the charade.

Given Nahawi's penalty is around 40% of the tax due, HMRC don't believe it to be a case of an honest mistake, or one that was readily accepted once it was pointed out. It also doesn't fall into the deliberate and hidden category but it is somewhere inbetween.

Saying that, given Nahawi's has not accepted his wrongdoing and has made it difficult for HMRC to come to a fair outcome, Nahawi is in no position to lead anyone, or to legislate for anyone. The man set out to use offshore trusts to hide his income and gains, and has been found out.

If the Tories don't remove the whip, and you still vote Tory, then you're part of the problem.

[life on mars]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

HMRC should have advised the appointments committee as due process .

Zahawi lied and deceived the political appointments and advisory committee, Sir Kier once in power will hit the same ineffected appointment process and someone will lie to him ..

Labour have buried many poor behaviours within its own party , woman's rights, abuse , drugs , racism..

Wome taking bodyguards to a Labour Party conference is bewildering ..

Sir Kiers words hate was allowed to fester in my party .why not say that as a deputy in Corbyns government ???

All the same.

[Dorcus]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

HMRC should have advised the appointments committee as due process .

Zahawi lied and deceived the political appointments and advisory committee, Sir Kier once in power will hit the same ineffected appointment process and someone will lie to him ..

Labour have buried many poor behaviours within its own party , woman's rights, abuse , drugs , racism..

Wome taking bodyguards to a Labour Party conference is bewildering ..

Sir Kiers words hate was allowed to fester in my party .why not say that as a deputy in Corbyns government ???

All the same.

"ineffected appointment process"???

[The Bloop]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

HMRC should have advised the appointments committee as due process .

Zahawi lied and deceived the political appointments and advisory committee, Sir Kier once in power will hit the same ineffected appointment process and someone will lie to him ..

Labour have buried many poor behaviours within its own party , woman's rights, abuse , drugs , racism..

Wome taking bodyguards to a Labour Party conference is bewildering ..

Sir Kiers words hate was allowed to fester in my party .why not say that as a deputy in Corbyns government ???

All the same.

Its not HMRCs job to declare potential conflicts of interest. They owe a duty of confidentiality in any enquiry, past or present. It was Zahawi, and him alone who had the duty to declare.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

Its not HMRCs job to declare potential conflicts of interest. They owe a duty of confidentiality in any enquiry, past or present. It was Zahawi, and him alone who had the duty to declare.

He didn't need to declare the investigations, the press were reporting on it last summer. Sunak's timeline makes no sense whatsoever.

[jon1959]

Re: Nadhim Zahawi Tax avoidance

HMRC should have advised the appointments committee as due process .

Zahawi lied and deceived the political appointments and advisory committee, Sir Kier once in power will hit the same ineffected appointment process and someone will lie to him ..

Labour have buried many poor behaviours within its own party , woman's rights, abuse , drugs , racism..

Wome taking bodyguards to a Labour Party conference is bewildering ..

Sir Kiers words hate was allowed to fester in my party .why not say that as a deputy in Corbyns government ???

All the same.

Oh well done. Another classic of misrepresentation, deflection and distortion. But mainly deflection. Lots of deflection!