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  • #46
    Re: Palestine Israel

    Originally posted by Feedback View Post
    yet the people of the West Bank aren't oppressed, or facing such an onslaught. Hamas are the problem, and the Gazans continually support them.
    The people of the West Bank aren’t oppressed? Wow!

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    • #47
      Re: Palestine Israel

      Originally posted by Feedback View Post
      yet the people of the West Bank aren't oppressed, or facing such an onslaught. Hamas are the problem, and the Gazans continually support them.
      Not going to pretend I'm an expert but a quick google shows Sky report from 15th of this month stating at least 11 dead in the West Bank. Are you saying there is onslaught but as much as there is in Hamas areas?

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      • #48
        Re: Palestine Israel

        Honest question why do posters care about what's happening in countries nowhere near to ours?
        This is a genuine question

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        • #49
          Re: Palestine Israel

          Why are the Jews always the whipping boys for criticism? If you search on Wikipedia for current civil wars, you will notice that there are dozens of ongoing - very bloody and lengthy- conflicts in our world today. They have thousands of fatalities each year. I don’t see anyone on this board criticising these conflicts or countries involved. You should all leave off the the Jews. My belief is that both sides are to blame. Israel has a right wing repulsive government and prime minister- far away from the marvellous left wind idealists who started the country back in 1948.

          The Gazeans live in awful conditions and attack Israel who can’t be blamed for retaliation. It isn’t only Israel’s fault for their conditions- Arabs in general should have left Israel alone after its creation rather than starting war after war.

          No way should Israel and the Jews be blamed for everything that goes wrong in this world as fascists have done throughout time. The day of the downtrodden Jew/Israeli has long gone. They are right to defend themselves.

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          • #50
            Re: Palestine Israel

            Originally posted by stan butler View Post
            Honest question why do posters care about what's happening in countries nowhere near to ours?
            This is a genuine question
            Exactly Stan; well said.

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            • #51
              Re: Palestine Israel

              Originally posted by stan butler View Post

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              • #52
                Re: Palestine Israel

                Originally posted by stan butler View Post
                Honest question why do posters care about what's happening in countries nowhere near to ours?
                This is a genuine question
                You know how world wars began right?

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                • #53
                  Re: Palestine Israel

                  Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                  so what do you think it is about "the Gazans" that means this happens, if not a result of the oppression from Israel?
                  Go back to the Palestinian civil war where Hamas took control of Gaza from Fatah.

                  Whereas Fatah are happy with the peace accord and control the West Bank, acknowledge the state of Israel and receive funding from the US, Russia and the international community, Hamas want to see Israel wiped from the map with an Islamic state in its place

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                  • #54
                    Re: Palestine Israel

                    Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                    The people of the West Bank aren’t oppressed? Wow!
                    Fatah controls areas A and B (or is it B and C) and have a great deal of autonomy

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                    • #55
                      Re: Palestine Israel

                      Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                      I don't think it is allowed
                      That’s weird

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                      • #56
                        Re: Palestine Israel

                        Originally posted by goats View Post
                        That’s weird
                        Thats because Gaza is de facto in rebellion under Hamas and Israel and Egypt have both sealed it off

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                        • #57
                          Re: Palestine Israel

                          Originally posted by stan butler View Post
                          Honest question why do posters care about what's happening in countries nowhere near to ours?
                          This is a genuine question
                          Because we are all part of something bigger than where a red line on a map is drawn.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Palestine Israel

                            Originally posted by stan butler View Post
                            Honest question why do posters care about what's happening in countries nowhere near to ours?
                            This is a genuine question
                            I care not least because innocent children are being slaughtered by the actions of hate filled adults as we are witnessing in Palestine/Israel today and have witnessed on a huge scale in recent times in Syria. Sadly the surviving siblings of those children will in turn probably become the hate filled adults of tomorrow such as we see in Palestine/Israel today. A self-perpetuating nightmare.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Palestine Israel

                              Originally posted by cityhammer View Post
                              I think you missed the point of blue matt's comment. it think he was referring to meeting Israelis rather than Jews.

                              The problem is that criticism of Israel gets roundly condemned as being anti-semetic, which of course it isnt. Criticism of the nation of Israel is not criticism of the Jewish faith and any attempt to portray it as such is divisive imo.
                              I have nothing against the Jewish people at all ( infact I found " Friday night dinner " fairly entertaining ), my reply was in reply to Goats about meeting Israelis and the group i met were horrid people, they must have all finished IDF service and gone travelling and ended up in Sydney, they hated nearly everyone, but as AfricanBluebird points out, we shouldnt think that they are all the same, i was unfortunate to have spent far too many hours in the company of them, as I said I was relieved to have met the Lebanese girl and that gave me a excuse to not speak to them without causing too much offence to my group of mates ( and housemates )

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                              • #60
                                Re: Palestine Israel

                                A 6-year-old Palestinian girl narrowly survived an Israeli airstrike that killed her mom and 4 siblings (warning: distressing) https://t.co/prOLUYXuVt

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