Palestine Israel

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Yes there is evidence, I've seen it.

They interviewed the current homeowner about how he feels for the old couple who's home it used to be.

He replied "frankly, I don't feel anything, because living here is very enjoyable"

Can we see the evidence?

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Can we see the evidence?

Just for the record, i don't want to see any evidence, so don't speak for me

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Can we see the evidence?

sure, find it yourself

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sure, find it yourself

So you don't have any to hand then. That's OK, but its rather contradictory as earlier you intimated their was evidence wherever you looked

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Just for the record, i don't want to see any evidence, so don't speak for me

I wasn't

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So you don't have any to hand then. That's OK, but its rather contradictory as earlier you intimated their was evidence wherever you looked

i could quite easily find it again, it took me at most 5 minutes before. but you're being such a contrarian arse as usual I really can't be ****ed.
a journalist had brought this old couple to see the house that they were evicted from years earlier and handed over to settlers.

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Where's Splott David when you need him?

Or is he alreadyhere?

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i could quite easily find it again, it took me at most 5 minutes before. but you're being such a contrarian arse as usual I really can't be ****ed.
a journalist had brought this old couple to see the house that they were evicted from years earlier and handed over to settlers.

I sense you're frustrated that I don't just accept what you write as fact.

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I wasn't

Using the Royal 'We' Obviously

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Social media can produce and spread 'evidence' which is not what it seems - correct, though you haven't shown any evidence to say that's happening here.

The painful and embarrassing eviction of Palestinian families from their homes in the Sheikh Jarrah district of East Jerusalem by Jewish settlers as part of ongoing erosion of Palestine - factual.

[Stanmore Bluebird]

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Why don’t you all discuss other current civil wars, many of which are taking place in many parts of the world? Just look at the numbers being killed elsewhere which are far heavier than the subject conflict.

Also, the numbers killed by Hamas are misleading as they have attempted to kill far more Israelis than they have succeeded in doing - just look at the number of missiles they have launched against Israel!

[AfricanBluebird]

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any chance of a back story or is this simply accepting what we read on social media?

could it be that the house originally belonged to the Jewish family but was claimed by the Palestinians in the 1920s and 1930s? Could it be the house was sole legitimately? could it be that the Jewish family paid money for it? Could it be the Palestinian couple were evicted to make way for the Jewish couple?

none of us can be sure based on that photo alone

While you're right to ask for more context, let's explore that a bit then shall we. We know where it is though and we have history, census etc so lets explore those....

There were between 60,000 and 80,000 Jewish people in Palestine in 1920s and made up less than 17% of the population of Palestine. No Jewish homes were claimed by Palestinians in the 1920's. In 1517 there were only 5000 Jewish people living in Israel and that number didn't go up significantly (it only reached 60000 by the 1920s). Jewish people hadn't lived there in large volumes until the 1950's after the formation of Israel in 48.

Additionally in the areas where Jewish 'settlers' have come to kick out the Palestinians haven't had Jewish people living there for 1000's of years (a small area of the West Bank the exception where a small Jewish population left in 1948 during the war.

However, that is all academic as this case is in Ijzim, where there hadn't a Jewish population living there for thousands of years.... in 1922, the decade where you proposed that perhaps Palestinians took Jewish homes and now back to reclaim them, there were no Jewish people recorded in the 1922 census (1610 Muslims and 1 Christian!). In fact there have been NO recoded Jewish people living in Ljzim (now renamed Kerem Maharal) since recording began in 1596 until 2006 when Israel extended their illegal settlement policy!

Native Americans have lost their land to settlers far more recently than Jewish ancestors lost theirs in the Israel / Palestine.

The point is that this house has been stolen from Palestinians, breaking international law, under the right wing policy of the Israeli government to provide 'settlers' with homes and effectively making indigenous Palestinians homeless and squeezing them into an small geographical area stripping them of their rights and access to health and education and jobs .


So feedback, you're scenario is preposterous both mathematically and geographically.

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Why don’t you all discuss other current civil wars, many of which are taking place in many parts of the world? Just look at the numbers being killed elsewhere which are far heavier than the subject conflict.

Also, the numbers killed by Hamas are misleading as they have attempted to kill far more Israelis than they have succeeded in doing - just look at the number of missiles they have launched against Israel!

feel free to start another thread

[Stanmore Bluebird]

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Because so many people on this board are preoccupied with Israel and conveniently forget that so many of its inhabitants are direct descendants/relatives of murdered Jews from the Nazi era. Many of the survivors of this era were refugees who managed to reach Israel.

[Stanmore Bluebird]

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Because so many people on this board are preoccupied with Israel and conveniently forget that so many of its inhabitants are direct descendants/relatives of murdered Jews from the Nazi era. Many of the survivors of this era were refugees who managed to reach Israel.

We cannot blame Israel for not meekly accepting persecution/murder like too many of their descendants did in WW2. The current generation has become ‘harder’ and quite correctly learned how to defend itself. Just don’t focus so much upon Israel at the expense of other on-standing terrible atrocities elsewhere on the globe where far more genocide occurs.