Taking The Knee To Continue ?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I would love to contribute to this debate about the concept of Germany but I have avowed to shut my traps about such things

[dembethewarrior]

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Bet you lot are a barrel of laughs down the football.

[Feedback]

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I would love to contribute to this debate about the concept of Germany but I have avowed to shut my traps about such things

Please, go on and add your twopenneth

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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You are misinformed.

The English language refers to the land as German and Germany from the Latin germania. In the German language "deutsche" has etymology in the teutonic knights, which stems from proto german for "people"...rather than deutsche being German language for German.

So whilst german/Germany may be used in the English language, these are not terms used by those speaking any of the varieties of the sprachraum.

Think of cymry/cymru. It doesn't mean welsh/Wales (which in saxon wealas was foreigner), but meant country/countrymen.

Hence 'Wallonia' and 'Wallachia' as the term 'wealas' was eventually use generically for foreigners. Funnily enough, I am leading a walk in the Quantocks (Cantuctun in Saxon) and which includes the highest peak i.e. Wills Neck. The 'Wills' component being cognate with 'wealas' as it is thought that the area was the buffer between the Saxon Kingdom and the Britons.

At the risk of boring people to death, the word 'slave' and 'Slav' are also cognate due to the latter people being subjugated and their 'tribal' name being used for others who became subjugated.

I'm probably talking to myself here but I'm working on it

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Please, go on and add your twopenneth

I daren't. I'll just say that there's a certain country in Europe that is referred to by its neighbours by very different names and which relate to different tribes that were in its modern-day boundaries.....

[Feedback]

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Hence 'Wallonia' and 'Wallachia' as the term 'wealas' was eventually use generically for foreigners. Funnily enough, I am leading a walk in the Quantocks (Cantuctun in Saxon) and which includes the highest peak i.e. Wills Neck. The 'Wills' component being cognate with 'wealas' as it is thought that the area was the buffer between the Saxon Kingdom and the Britons.

At the risk of boring people to death, the word 'slave' and 'Slav' are also cognate due to the latter people being subjugated and their 'tribal' name being used for others who became subjugated.

I'm probably talking to myself here but I'm working on it

You're not talking to yourself. I'm pretty sure it was the Romans (the Latins not the byzantiums) who referred to the people as slavs.

[Feedback]

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I daren't. I'll just say that there's a certain country in Europe that is referred to by its neighbours by very different names and which relate to different tribes that were in its modern-day boundaries.....

For example, allemagne

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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For example, allemagne

I can't possibly comment or add several more to your singular example

[Feedback]

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I can't possibly comment or add several more to your singular example

I do wonder how these individual tribes referred to themselves. Perhaps they referred to each other differently, or perhaps they referred to each other as being the same, a collective, so to speak.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I do wonder how these individual tribes referred to themselves. Perhaps they referred to each other differently, or perhaps they referred to each other as being the same, a collective, so to speak.

I think it was common for tribes to consider themselves as 'people' or similar and to consider outsiders as just that.

[Feedback]

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I think it was common for tribes to consider themselves as 'people' or similar and to consider outsiders as just that.

But the picts have been attested as being brythonic, yet they referred to themselves as anything but

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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But the picts have been attested as being brythonic, yet they referred to themselves as anything but

Labels and the concept of self-identity are a fascinating concepts in life and they sometimes don't actually mean anything.

[Feedback]

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Labels and the concept of self-identity are a fascinating concepts in life and they sometimes don't actually mean anything.

Agreed

[xsnaggle]

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"But I once played in a rugby team in the Army composed of fourteen Fijians and me."

I wonder why they made him play on the opposition

I once played hooker in a team where the rest of the pack were fijian. They sared me as much as they scared the opposition but in the aftergame piss up I was bombproof lol

[jon1959]

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Can't the rest of you just tell Feedback he's right even if you don't believe it? It's clearly very important to him that he believes he is.

I wish I'd followed your advice earlier.... just after his reference to 'irredentism' showed where the thread was going.