Taking The Knee To Continue ?

[Hilts]

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Mings not happy with Patel.

https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/england-defender-tyrone-mings-hits-out-at-home-secretary-priti-patel-after-players-subject-to-racist-abuse-12354567?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16261210931912&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Fengland-defender-tyrone-mings-hits-out-at-home-secretary-priti-patel-after-players-subject-to-racist-abuse-12354567

[Dave Blue]

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Bloody nonsense .
No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
I appreciate that these people are probably too thick to understand that , but personally I don’t want to pay to watch them publicising ANY political beliefs. They can do that in their own time.

Brainwashed by some alt right website no doubt. That’s being kind to you.

[stevo]

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All the more reason for it to continue after the events that followed last night’s game.

[dembethewarrior]

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Affects me in no way whatsoever so if it was to carry on for eternity I'd have no issue with it, I'll be honest though I can't really see what it does.

[dembethewarrior]

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The Tories have already de funded the police and the armed forces, so no need to worry.

I keep hearing an advert on the radio for 30k police or 20 it may be actually..

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Mings not happy with Patel.

https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject....abuse-12354567

Patel is a complete arsehole , it shows what a state this country is in when she talks a load of crap then a few weeks later is .....disgusted .....by the very racism she condones

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Affects me in no way whatsoever so if it was to carry on for eternity I'd have no issue with it, I'll be honest though I can't really see what it does.

what if it affected one of your mates ?

[dembethewarrior]

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what if it affected one of your mates ?

I just said I have no issue with it carrying on for eternity.

I just don't see what it does, I'm not suggesting people stop doing it, but it doesn't seem to work, maybe there's another way.

[adz-a32]

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Bloody nonsense .
No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
I appreciate that these people are probably too thick to understand that , but personally I don’t want to pay to watch them publicising ANY political beliefs. They can do that in their own time.

*rolls my ****ing eyes*

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Bloody nonsense .
No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).

In fairness, I've seen you post some fecking nonsense on here which you actually believe, but this, even by your irrelevant standards, shows you up for who you are.

[RonnieBird]

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Ronnie, this is a direct copy and paste from BLM's description of itself:

"#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

I'm genuinely interested in where your views come from. They don't seem to reflect what the official BLM description of itself is.

It’s a most complicated matter and a most complicated subject AZ.
Too complicated to address properly here of course, but it’s origins go back a very long way into both American politics and various arms of Marxism. Suffice it to say that I’m quite satisfied that it’s a deeply sinister organisation.
How it describes itself and indeed how it describes its own history and formation is one thing and no doubt most of those who have been convinced by this are perfectly well intentioned people of good conscience but the truth of the matter is something else altogether in my opinion.

It’s hardly a new thing for deeply unpleasant groups to misrepresent themselves as a force for good and in my opinion,( which of course anyone is quite free to accept or reject), that’s exactly what Blm does.

I won’t bother defending myself against those who attribute this opinion to racism- that’s a standard unintelligent accusation against anyone who questions certain unsupportable dogmas. Fact is though that these people are far from the good guys they’d have you think they are.

[az city]

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It’s a most complicated matter and a most complicated subject AZ.
Too complicated to address properly here of course, but it’s origins go back a very long way into both American politics and various arms of Marxism. Suffice it to say that I’m quite satisfied that it’s a deeply sinister organisation.
How it describes itself and indeed how it describes its own history and formation is one thing and no doubt most of those who have been convinced by this are perfectly well intentioned people of good conscience but the truth of the matter is something else altogether in my opinion.

It’s hardly a new thing for deeply unpleasant groups to misrepresent themselves as a force for good and in my opinion,( which of course anyone is quite free to accept or reject), that’s exactly what Blm does.

I won’t bother defending myself against those who attribute this opinion to racism- that’s a standard unintelligent accusation against anyone who questions certain unsupportable dogmas. Fact is though that these people are far from the good guys they’d have you think they are.

But where do you get your opinion of BLM from? What are your sources?

[RonnieBird]

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This not being an essay and what with my not being a student I don’t really do sources.
If I did then, like Carlsberg , they’d probably be the best sources in the world of course, but you know when you’ve had your finger on the pulse of world events for 60 years or so in one way or another and you’ve been constantly comparing and checking these things with everything from Plato to the Communist Manifesto as you go along then the list of sources would be terribly long even if it were possible to recall them all.

Actually, I’ve sometimes been quoted as a source if that helps.

In short , there comes a point where your cumulative learning and experience melds into an overall set of conclusions, although as I said above , it’s only ever an opinion, so it can be right or wrong or - more likely - somewhere in between.

Bottom line then is that I don’t believe either Blm’s version of itself or the validly of the arguments which are made in its name .

[Wash DC Blue]

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It would be interesting to know what percentage of English People and English fans were horribly racist just to see if a minority is trying to stir up a hornets nest.

I could never see Wales fans giving it to HRK or Ashley Williams.
Apart from Grangetown Blue...they are both surely held in the highest regard by all Wales fans even though one is a Jack?

[the other bob wilson]

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It’s a most complicated matter and a most complicated subject AZ.
Too complicated to address properly here of course, but it’s origins go back a very long way into both American politics and various arms of Marxism. Suffice it to say that I’m quite satisfied that it’s a deeply sinister organisation.
How it describes itself and indeed how it describes its own history and formation is one thing and no doubt most of those who have been convinced by this are perfectly well intentioned people of good conscience but the truth of the matter is something else altogether in my opinion.

It’s hardly a new thing for deeply unpleasant groups to misrepresent themselves as a force for good and in my opinion,( which of course anyone is quite free to accept or reject), that’s exactly what Blm does.

I won’t bother defending myself against those who attribute this opinion to racism- that’s a standard unintelligent accusation against anyone who questions certain unsupportable dogmas. Fact is though that these people are far from the good guys they’d have you think they are.

It's not a fact, it's your opinion.