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  • Re: Ukraine Conflict Getting Very Close

    Originally posted by lardy View Post
    I've never seen Ukraine described as a democratic idyll.

    I'm pretty sure this whole thing isn't because "everyone" thinks Ukraine is really nice.
    Ukraine has an edge which would not be considered that democratic in our sense , measured against others in the region its okay, as it try's to appear more Westernised and fair as a society as it seeks closer alignment to Europe and NATO, hence the problem we see now .

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    • Re: Ukraine Conflict Getting Very Close

      Originally posted by lardy View Post
      I've never seen Ukraine described as a democratic idyll.

      I'm pretty sure this whole thing isn't because "everyone" thinks Ukraine is really nice.
      Well I quite liked it

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        English footballer Kadeem Harris's fears over life in Ukraine at Metalist Kharkiv

        https://www.thenationalnews.com/worl...alist-kharkiv/

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          Originally posted by The Hooded Claw View Post
          Putin’s a hypocrite. He says that Ukraine is not a proper country and yet the Soviets took Konigsberg from Germany at the end of the Second World War and renamed it Kaliningrad.
          Are they going to give that back, then?
          Kaliningrad was ceded to the Russians in 1945 (by the US and the UK) after they had invaded it during World War II but since then the Germans have expressed no wish for it to returned back into German hands.

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            Originally posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
            The point that Russia has the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons and continues to add to it. There has to come a point when they need to ask themselves is there any need to keep increasing the amount they have?
            The UK has far fewer nuclear weapons than Russia, however, in the event of a nuclear conflict the outcome would be the same... both countries turned to dust.
            Ahh gotcha, went way over my head

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              Originally posted by delmbox View Post
              Ahh gotcha, went way over my head
              No worries!

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                Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                Made me chuckle :

                Ben Wallace says Vladimir Putin 'gone full tonto'

                It sounds like an expression he has picked up from Johnson. Bullingdon Club speak.

                Not really sure what it means - unless Xi Jinping is the Lone Ranger?

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                  Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                  Ahh gotcha, went way over my head
                  If one’s launched, I hope the f*ck it does.

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                  • Re: Ukraine Conflict Getting Very Close

                    Trivial, I know, in the big picture but will Scotland’s game with Ukraine be affected? It surely will.

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                      BREAKING: Ukraine says at least seven people have been killed by Russian shelling

                      Russian ruble falls by over 8% against US Dollar, now at new record low.

                      Brent crude oil hits $103

                      Russian vehicles moving across the border from the Crimean peninsula on Thursday, after Russian President Vladimir Putin announced military operations in the country.

                      Citizens of Ukraine are seen fleeing the country as Russia continues its invasion

                      Not good news to wake up today is it

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                      • Re: Ukraine Conflict Getting Very Close

                        Seems to has escalated into a full scale invasion, with Russian troops attacking from the east, the north and the south.

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                        • Re: Ukraine Conflict Getting Very Close

                          Jesus this is bad, Putin is a madman.

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                          • Re: Ukraine Conflict Getting Very Close

                            Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                            Jesus this is bad, Putin is a madman.
                            Taking Europe back decades….the bloke needs taking out. NATO will have to build up a huge force now in Poland etc….threaten him back. I reckon it’s all he will understand.

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                              Some reports claiming Russia took out the entire Ukraine air-defence system with the loss of 5 jets. That's nuts if true considering it would probably be NATO hardware?

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                                Originally posted by goats View Post
                                Taking Europe back decades….the bloke needs taking out. NATO will have to build up a huge force now in Poland etc….threaten him back. I reckon it’s all he will understand.
                                As long as your comfortable playing nuclear chicken with a 70 year old nutter with a god complex.

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