40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[JamesWales]

Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

Not at all, there are instances where arresting people is the correct thing to do. The event you are alluding to is definitely not one of them.

Thank Goodness you're not the Commissioner for Police.

Because it's racism aimed at Jews? I can't understand why you would tolerate people calling for jihad under a banner of a Muslim army in the UK and think that's okay.

Your argument seems to be that those being arrested would react angrily. But as I said, by that token you wouldn't arrest anyone.

Man beats his wife on street - don't arrest him, he could get violent.

I can't believe you are okay with it

[Dorcus]

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Because it's racism aimed at Jews? I can't understand why you would tolerate people calling for jihad under a banner of a Muslim army in the UK and think that's okay.

Your argument seems to be that those being arrested would react angrily. But as I said, by that token you wouldn't arrest anyone.

Man beats his wife on street - don't arrest him, he could get violent.

I can't believe you are okay with it

Again you're spouting nonsense.

A lone man called for "jihad". I doubt you read it properly but earlier in the thread Jon explained there are nuances to the word which non Muslims would probably not understand or interpret wrongly. This lone instance of someone chanting the word did not encite violence, therefore it was not illegal. Had the police arrested the man then violent scenes might well have occurred. The police managed the situation correctly.

Did not some Jewish people call for revenge after the Hamas attacks? Do you not think that might have been harrowing and offensive for Arab people? Yet there was no public condemnation over that.

It may boil your piss that one lone person cried "jihad" and was allowed to get away scot free but the sensible amongst us would prefer not to escalate tensions. In any case it's reported the Police had a quiet word with the chap afterwards. Top marks in my opinion and all credit to a professional approach.

[Eric Cartman]

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I have seen plenty of clips of Jewish protestors saying horrendous things. That is why people outside of the conflict need to stay objective and not get drawn into the emotional side of things, that just fans the flames.

There appears to be a narrative in the UK/world media that this conflict began the other week when Hamas murdered and kidnapped Israeli civilians. That is not objective and needs to be challenged because it provides cover to the Israeli response.

[BlueArmy 86]

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[jon1959]

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https://x.com/shaykhsulaiman/status/...xyPQF8Betlv1bw

Very powerful speech by Matt Carthy - the need more like him and Clare Daly to speak truth to power and hypocrisy, but instead we get the likes of Sunak and Starmer.

[Dorcus]

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Very powerful speech by Matt Carthy - the need more like him and Clare Daly to speak truth to power and hypocrisy, but instead we get the likes of Sunak and Starmer.

The government have even got the likes of TFL inducted into their crusade against the Palestinian people. Its been reported a tube driver shouted "Free Palestine" and has been suspended from his duties today.

No mention of "jihad" in any context in which it may be construed but just a simple plea for the end of occupation and oppression. When the government has everyone dancing to their tune it's easy to see why so much resentment is aroused.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Appalling scenes on BBC News from Gaza

They are sitting ducks

Kids lined up in hospitals , some dying waiting for help , others dying on the way in

Cease fire , humanitarian aid is being called by UN

Many more deaths if the Israelis go in

The Sec General of UN says its time to halt the operations

Israeli is a law unto itself

[+ the native hipster]

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The government have even got the likes of TFL inducted into their crusade against the Palestinian people. Its been reported a tube driver shouted "Free Palestine" and has been suspended from his duties today.

No mention of "jihad" in any context in which it may be construed but just a simple plea for the end of occupation and oppression. When the government has everyone dancing to their tune it's easy to see why so much resentment is aroused.

it's a good job we have banned jews from using the tube.

[the other bob wilson]

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I see the UN Secretary is getting it in the neck this morning from the usual subjects in the UK press for saying that Israel has contravened international law. Why is it seemingly impossible to acknowledge the unspeakable horror of the Hamas attack on 7 October, while also pointing out Israel’s part in bringing it about and their dubious, in some respects, response to it? It’s not the simple case of good v evil that Netanyahu has tried to present it as.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-67212275

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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With respect, Christians (of which I am one) do not espouse an eye-for-an-eye mentality. IMO Jews are still stuck in an Old Testament mentality and have mainly rejected Jesus (although I understand that there are an increasing number of Jewish Christians) hence I am not surprised that they still have that sense of revenge in their make-up. Sadly we get the world we deserve and it is heartbreaking to see the effect, especially on innocent children.

We get the world we deserve in many respects because of religion

[jon1959]

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I see the UN Secretary is getting it in the neck this morning from the usual subjects in the UK press for saying that Israel has contravened international law. Why is it seemingly impossible to acknowledge the unspeakable horror of the Hamas attack on 7 October, while also pointing out Israel’s part in bringing it about and their dubious, in some respects, response to it? It’s not the simple case of good v evil that Netanyahu has tried to present it as.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-67212275

The Telegraph headline is the worst.

[Dorcus]

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it's a good job we have banned jews from using the tube.

Do you think so? Have you recently joined Hamas?

[Dorcus]

Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

I see the UN Secretary is getting it in the neck this morning from the usual subjects in the UK press for saying that Israel has contravened international law. Why is it seemingly impossible to acknowledge the unspeakable horror of the Hamas attack on 7 October, while also pointing out Israel’s part in bringing it about and their dubious, in some respects, response to it? It’s not the simple case of good v evil that Netanyahu has tried to present it as.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-67212275

I just watched an interview between Kay Burley and Darren Jones, Labour's Shadow Treasury Secretary. What a piece of shite!

Tried to come over all hand wringing and so sad at the terrible plight of the people of Gaza but....would he or Labour call for a ceasefire? Not a bit of it. Tried to deflect time after time after time. Just spouted the same old crap as the Tories.

No doubt he can go home to his family happy he lives a cosy, safe existence cocooned from danger. It puts me off voting Labour completely if this is what it's become.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I just watched an interview between Kay Burley and Darren Jones, Labour's Shadow Treasury Secretary. What a piece of shite!

Tried to come over all hand wringing and so sad at the terrible plight of the people of Gaza but....would he or Labour call for a ceasefire? Not a bit of it. Tried to deflect time after time after time. Just spouted the same old crap as the Tories.

No doubt he can go home to his family happy he lives a cosy, safe existence cocooned from danger. It puts me off voting Labour completely if this is what it's become.

The Labour Party know that any sense that they are not towing the line will lead to claims of anti semitism which of course is nothing to do with criticism of Israeli war policy

If the bombing continues then I can't see how they can keep up with this strategy

Ultimately thousands of people are going to die and I think Starmer has a duty to step up here

[Dorcus]

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The Labour Party know that any sense that they are not towing the line will lead to claims of anti semitism which of course is nothing to do with criticism of Israeli war policy

If the bombing continues then I can't see how they can keep up with this strategy

Ultimately thousands of people are going to die and I think Starmer has a duty to step up here

It sickens me. It's just pure calculation to win votes and devoid of humanity.