Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Give it a rest you fabian

You are too old to have not grown up by now.

[JamesWales]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

It didn't impact supply except the supply bit then?

Definitely true that the UK was going to see increased demand through population growth but RTB has directly impacted the amount of houses being built, which is a massive problem. Rent depends on supply/demand not cost and through a time of increased demand we have deliberately decreased supply. If social housing was accessible for more people then it feels to me like it would likely affect the prices of private rentals, yes some would leave the stock as leveraged landlords become unprofitable at a certain price point but those with the means to charge less, would.

My previous landlord was a decent guy, my rent went up maybe 5% over 3 years from 2021-2024, I think I was booted out for one reason and one reason only, if section 21 was scrapped then he would need to sell the property with me in it. I was down for work a few weeks ago and it's still sitting empty, his sale fell through and it's back on the market. Tbf it's a weird little 1 bed house so a bit niche but whatever advice he took about the impending doom has cost him 8/9 grand or so.

No I mean it didn't impact supply in the sense that the receipts (which wouldn't have existed if they weren't sold) were not used to build new homes, which they should have done. But the basic principle of removing a million odd homes doesn't mean a million were lost as dwellings. If RTB hadnt happened, they wouldn't have been freed up. They would still be occupied by the people who bought them.

Irrespective, I don't dispute it's an ingredient in the foul tasting housing crisis cake. It's just not the biggest and that is the massive spike in demand that impacts all sectors.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

You are too old to have not grown up by now.

Same to you

All we are getting from you is support of these right wing labour policies which are being delivered like a student sixth form political economy lecture class

The real world is that Labour are in serious trouble yet are coming up with nothing to keep even their traditional voting base on side

You sound like a suit from a focus group and all the intellectual guff is not only boring , it's getting us nowhere

You carry on , I am not interested in all the pseudo debates , it's time for heads to roll

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

No I mean it didn't impact supply in the sense that the receipts (which wouldn't have existed if they weren't sold) were not used to build new homes, which they should have done. But the basic principle of removing a million odd homes doesn't mean a million were lost as dwellings. If RTB hadnt happened, they wouldn't have been freed up. They would still be occupied by the people who bought them.

Irrespective, I don't dispute it's an ingredient in the foul tasting housing crisis cake. It's just not the biggest and that is the massive spike in demand that impacts all sectors.

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You are priceless

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

They didn't have to buy the house , they chose to buy it

My view is that council houses should never be up for sale and those offered them should refuse to buy them

Then , when they pass on , the house goes back to the council to offer another person or persons low rent housing

Thus we have a supply of housing for those who need it at low rented cost

If houses are sold they are lost forever and mostly never replaced

The individual circumstances of why people buy council homes are irrelevant

It's as simple as that

Who are you from a distance of nearly half a century to label my parents “greedy and selfish gits” and “as bad as Thatcher”? If you’ve got to apportion blame, it’s got to be at those bodies with authority to give the green light to council and social housing schemes that created the situation whereby not enough of them are being built to satisfy demand. You’re effectively saying that my parents should have decided back in the mid 70s, that they wouldn’t take up what was a once in a lifetime opportunity for them because they knew that successive Governments and local Governments in the coming decades would create a situation where the country is crying out for social and council housing - that’s ludicrous.

[Heathblue]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Posh, privileged, Blazer, Satchel and Cap kid from Cowbridge, lectures kids brought up on sink estates who's parents never had a pot to piss in, CCMB in a thread, a great start to what is going to be a long day :hehe::hehe::hehe:

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Who are you from a distance of nearly half a century to label my parents “greedy and selfish gits” and “as bad as Thatcher”? If you’ve got to apportion blame, it’s got to be at those bodies with authority to give the green light to council and social housing schemes that created the situation whereby not enough of them are being built to satisfy demand. You’re effectively saying that my parents should have decided back in the mid 70s, that they wouldn’t take up what was a once in a lifetime opportunity for them because they knew that successive Governments and local Governments in the coming decades would create a situation where the country is crying out for social and council housing - that’s ludicrous.

As far as I am concerned it's about principles then and now

That's the way it is

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Posh, privileged, Blazer, Satchel and Cap kid from Cowbridge, lectures kids brought up on sink estates who's parents never had a pot to piss in, CCMB in a thread, a great start to what is going to be a long day :hehe::hehe::hehe:

Neath

What sink estate were you brought up on then

You benefitted from right to buy so your working class diatribes on here have always been fake

[Heathblue]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Neath

What sink estate were you brought up on then

You benefitted from right to buy so your working class diatribes on here have always been fake

When I left home, my mum and dad were still paying rent I often had to hide and pretend I wasn’t in when the rent collector came. Since then, I’ve only lived in two homes, both with a mortgage. Benefitted? In your dreams sunshine. The Salvation Army gave my mum and me shelter when I was born, we were homeless. I wasn't born in Bristol because my mum fancied a weekend trip to the mendips. You don't know people via MB posts sonny.

[goats]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Yesterday both labour and Plaid were absolutely battered by reform in a council election in Carmarthenshire

Low turnout at 33 percent but reform polled 42 percent of the vote

I think everyone is sleepwalking

Just wanting to get the lowlife running the country out, whatever the cost, bit like you thought with the general election I reckon.
I couldn’t care who wins as long as this shower, who think they can do anything with the nationalist freaks, are dust.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

When I left home, my mum and dad were still paying rent I often had to hide and pretend I wasn’t in when the rent collector came. Since then, I’ve only lived in two homes, both with a mortgage. Benefitted? In your dreams sunshine. The Salvation Army gave my mum and me shelter when I was born, we were homeless. I wasn't born in Bristol because my mum fancied a weekend trip to the mendips. You don't know people via MB posts sonny.

One sold council house is one less for a council to provide for others in the future

So of course you benefitted

It's no either or when the next person on the list gets told somebody has bought the council house they hoped to get and there's no place for them

Oblivion

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

When I left home, my mum and dad were still paying rent I often had to hide and pretend I wasn’t in when the rent collector came. Since then, I’ve only lived in two homes, both with a mortgage. Benefitted? In your dreams sunshine. The Salvation Army gave my mum and me shelter when I was born, we were homeless. I wasn't born in Bristol because my mum fancied a weekend trip to the mendips. You don't know people via MB posts sonny.

One sold council house is one less for a council to provide for others in the future

So of course you benefitted

It's no either or when the next person on the list gets told somebody has bought the council house they hoped to get and there's no place for them

Oblivion

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Just wanting to get the lowlife running the country out, whatever the cost, bit like you thought with the general election I reckon.
I couldn’t care who wins as long as this shower, who think they can do anything with the nationalist freaks, are dust.

I think if we could rewind to Carwyn Jones it would be acceptable

Wtf is Mark Drakeford still hobbling around for ?

Him , Gething , Morgan ......just not up to the job and the nonsense over 20 mph and her creeping up to Labour in London .......only for it all to go tit's up is going to result in a wipe out

I certainly hope reform don't win though

[goats]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

I think if we could rewind to Carwyn Jones it would be acceptable

Wtf is Mark Drakeford still hobbling around for ?

Him , Gething , Morgan ......just not up to the job and the nonsense over 20 mph and her creeping up to Labour in London .......only for it all to go tit's up is going to result in a wipe out

I certainly hope reform don't win though

But unfortunately there is no other party who can oust this lot…..it is what it is….desperation

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

But unfortunately there is no other party who can oust this lot…..it is what it is….desperation

I can't see anything but a reform win , even in Wales