Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

I’m in the what sometimes seems to be one per cent who can’t get too worked up about immigration. In resality, I suspect that there are plenty more who feel like I do, but, in the case of Starmer’s Labour Party, they’re determined to chase the votes of a group of people who, in most cases, would never vote for them.

My point is that politics is always a game of where you draw the line. I remember an episode of question time years ago where an audience member went off on a 'public sector can't run a tap, everything should be privatised, free markets hurrah' rant and a panel member picked his overconfidence apart by listing off things that are currently government funded/run that it would be mental to privatise demonstrating the above - it's always about where you draw the line. Similarly with the WFA, its probably the threshold that divides opinion on the policy - I can't believe a majority of Britons think millionaire retiree should get free money for energy bills.

The problem that focusing on principles leads to is that the maths doesn't add up long term. The projections of benefits system right now, the projections of triple lock, the projections of just letting migration drift. And when you combine it all together we have a country where:

- Pension cohort and cost increasing
- Benefit claimants increasing massively (in work and out of work)
- Importing more and more people to do low paying jobs (filling the gaps left by UK workers)

Project that forward and it just isn't sustainable, right? It doesn't even sound functional now. And I'll say it again, labour has no hope of achieving anything they said without doing it - e.g. they could build more houses than ever and not even keep up with demand..

[Heathblue]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Well why don't you come up with something you hopeless old drunk

But not a druggie,
Isn't it politicians who are supposed to come up with something? when they are not taking brown envelopes for influence and orders from globalist organisations. Your boy has royally fked an already failing country. Own it.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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But not a druggie,
Isn't it politicians who are supposed to come up with something? when they are not taking brown envelopes for influence and orders from globalist organisations. Your boy has royally fked an already failing country. Own it.

I want him gone , if the people who voted Labour just say nothing now he's turning into a clown then they would be hypocritical and foolish

But I don't know anyone personally who are going to be voting for him again or indeed the party unless he's given his marching orders

So that's us




But what are you offering ? .....oh yes the old conspiracy brown envelopes nonsense 🙄 , gorged from the internet


You are going to be about 80 , sat in front of your keyboard saying I am great , I am a individual , I don't vote for any of them

Well feck off then you soppy old tart

[Heathblue]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

I want him gone , if the people who voted Labour just say nothing now he's turning into a clown then they would be hypocritical and foolish

But I don't know anyone personally who are going to be voting for him again or indeed the party unless he's given his marching orders

So that's us




But what are you offering ? .....oh yes the old conspiracy brown envelopes nonsense 🙄 , gorged from the internet


You are going to be about 80 , sat in front of your keyboard saying I am great , I am a individual , I don't vote for any of them

Well feck off then you soppy old tart

Lol, has the old lady from No.89 refused to pay you cash in hand again, can I update rattled to extremely rattled, you do not have to vent your guilt on me but man up and live with it.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Lol, has the old lady from No.89 refused to pay you cash in hand again, can I update rattled to extremely rattled, you do not have to vent your guilt on me but man up and live with it.

The only lady I am interested in is the divorcee over the road

You are not offering anything , all you are doing is poncing about on the internet with your conspiracy buddies .....all absolute fruitcakes who think after a few searches they know more the medical profession, financial analysts , historians ......whilst coming forward with feck all

So again .....those that wanted a change at the last election have quickly felt that the government under starmer is not up to the job

Some will be voting elsewhere , some with be pressurising their local mp and some will be trying everything they can to get the government to change course or get rid of starmer or both

Some will be not bothering voting until they snuff it , just like you always tell us

That's great but it doesn't achieve anything but suggest you are under the impression you are wiser than everyone else

Which is clearly absolute nonsense

We need law and order , we need security , we need an economy , we need a health service

Now there can be debate about the best ways of achieving that but if you just want to pipe up now again with this faaar right bullshit mixed in with some sort of pseudo conspiracy theory cobblers with a few stupid quotes and symbols thrown in .....special codes between you and your expert buddies .....or slag off those that have taken part in the democratic process ....unlike you ......then wtf are you doing with the time you have left on this planet ?

[Heathblue]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

The only lady I am interested in is the divorcee over the road

You are not offering anything , all you are doing is poncing about on the internet with your conspiracy buddies .....all absolute fruitcakes who think after a few searches they know more the medical profession, financial analysts , historians ......whilst coming forward with feck all

So again .....those that wanted a change at the last election have quickly felt that the government under starmer is not up to the job

Some will be voting elsewhere , some with be pressurising their local mp and some will be trying everything they can to get the government to change course or get rid of starmer or both

Some will be not bothering voting until they snuff it , just like you always tell us

That's great but it doesn't achieve anything but suggest you are under the impression you are wiser than everyone else

Which is clearly absolute nonsense

We need law and order , we need security , we need an economy , we need a health service

Now there can be debate about the best ways of achieving that but if you just want to pipe up now again with this faaar right bullshit mixed in with some sort of pseudo conspiracy theory cobblers with a few stupid quotes and symbols thrown in .....special codes between you and your expert buddies .....or slag off those that have taken part in the democratic process ....unlike you ......then wtf are you doing with the time you have left on this planet ?

Seething.
Not got time tonight I'm watching Liverpool. I'll try and get my manifesto to you before the end of the week :thumbup:
Talking about how much time I have left, I do not take tomorrow as a given and am quite happy when i wake up each morning, i got no expert buddies

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[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Seething.
Not got time tonight I'm watching Liverpool. I'll try and get my manifesto to you before the end of the week :thumbup:
Talking about how much time I have left, I do not take tomorrow as a given and am quite happy when i wake up each morning, i got no expert buddies

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Well I look forward to this

This isn't school so no copying and try and make it your own work

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/pictured-romanian-model-26-charged-arson-attacks-properties-linked-keir-starmer/

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/pictured...-keir-starmer/

Have you posted the wrong link here ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Well I look forward to this

This isn't school so no copying and try and make it your own work

It's the end of the week

Get on with it

[Wash DC Blue]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Was Enoch Powell wrong and/or was he a baddie?
I’ve always been led to believe that he was.

His motives might or might not be questionable, I’m going to listen to some podcasts about him.
It seems as though he was a polyglot and a polymath.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Was Enoch Powell wrong and/or was he a baddie?
I’ve always been led to believe that he was.

His motives might or might not be questionable, I’m going to listen to some podcasts about him.
It seems as though he was a polyglot and a polymath.

Think the point is that every Labour leader I can remember (that goes back to Harold Wilson) would have balked at being compared to Powell with the possible exception of this one.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Was Enoch Powell wrong and/or was he a baddie?
I’ve always been led to believe that he was.

His motives might or might not be questionable, I’m going to listen to some podcasts about him.
It seems as though he was a polyglot and a polymath.

He was undoubtedly a very intelligent person

But plenty of intelligent people are racists

[jon1959]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Think the point is that every Labour leader I can remember (that goes back to Harold Wilson) would have balked at being compared to Powell with the possible exception of this one.

Starmer going full Enoch seems to have bombed even with Reform voters, according to the latest YouGov polling:

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/05/21/labour-polling-latest/?__s=hheshtdmarsdn8syijsb

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Starmer being compared to Enoch Powell now.

Have you posted the wrong link here ?

How did that get there!