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    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    “They’re trying their best though”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...navirus-crisis
    This will be music to the ears of many on here. I see the hope is that schools will be back by 22 February in Wales which arguably is too soon as immunity for the first tier to receive the vaccine will not have kicked in by then. Let's hope the Welsh government are not playing politics as they have a history of ending shut downs early.

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      Meanwhile with new variants.

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        Originally posted by Vindec View Post
        This will be music to the ears of many on here. I see the hope is that schools will be back by 22 February in Wales which arguably is too soon as immunity for the first tier to receive the vaccine will not have kicked in by then. Let's hope the Welsh government are not playing politics as they have a history of ending shut downs early.
        I see the story I linked to mentioned about Wales coming out of their firebreak too early - hopefully, the vaccine roll out isn’t going to be the disaster it looked like being at one time, so, for me, the handling of the latter stages of the Firebreak remains the WAG’s worst moment of the pandemic.

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          Originally posted by Vindec View Post
          This will be music to the ears of many on here. I see the hope is that schools will be back by 22 February in Wales which arguably is too soon as immunity for the first tier to receive the vaccine will not have kicked in by then. Let's hope the Welsh government are not playing politics as they have a history of ending shut downs early.
          I think to be fair to the WAG wqhen they say 'schools' they don't mean a 100% return on =masse.
          At first its only the toddlers (Starters - don't know the correct term) and those who would normally be in their exam years.
          All the rest gradually depending how things go.

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            Numbers are stabilising but deaths are still high, sadly.

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              Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
              I think to be fair to the WAG wqhen they say 'schools' they don't mean a 100% return on =masse.
              At first its only the toddlers (Starters - don't know the correct term) and those who would normally be in their exam years.
              All the rest gradually depending how things go.
              I understand that but many of those that have received their jabs won't have gained immunity by 22 February as they won't have had time for their resistance to COVID to build up which is normally 3-4 weeks after their first jab. I believe that is one of the main reasons why scientists in England recommended school returns from 8 March. However if there are sound scientific reasons for returning earlier in Wales then so be it as long as the WG are not following a strategy of simply wanting to be different to England in order to emphasise their independence.

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                Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                I understand that but many of those that have received their jabs won't have gained immunity by 22 February as they won't have had time for their resistance to COVID to build up which is normally 3-4 weeks after their first jab. I believe that is one of the main reasons why scientists in England recommended school returns from 8 March. However if there are sound scientific reasons for returning earlier in Wales then so be it as long as the WG are not following a strategy of simply wanting to be different to England in order to emphasise their independence.
                I think the idea is for primary key stage 1 first, then 2, then if all goes well on to secondary pupils who seemed to transmit it a lot more than the young ones did. Didnt have a single case in my kids primary, only know one primary that did and that was caused by a teachers assistant I believe.

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                  Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                  I understand that but many of those that have received their jabs won't have gained immunity by 22 February as they won't have had time for their resistance to COVID to build up which is normally 3-4 weeks after their first jab. I believe that is one of the main reasons why scientists in England recommended school returns from 8 March. However if there are sound scientific reasons for returning earlier in Wales then so be it as long as the WG are not following a strategy of simply wanting to be different to England in order to emphasise their independence.
                  England is in a worse position than Wales.

                  Im the other way around I think he will delay a lot of things like opening pubs to the same time as England even though we are in a far better position.

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                    Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                    England is in a worse position than Wales.

                    Im the other way around I think he will delay a lot of things like opening pubs to the same time as England even though we are in a far better position.
                    Well spotted

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                      Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                      England is in a worse position than Wales.

                      Im the other way around I think he will delay a lot of things like opening pubs to the same time as England even though we are in a far better position.
                      That comes as a surprise. However, this comparison here

                      How does Wales compare with other parts of the UK and Europe for Covid-19?


                      shows Wales is performing far worse on every performance indicator and not far better as you indicate but if you have any statistical evidence to verify your view then I would like to see it.

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                        Wales total - 126.5 (Down from127.1) if you takeout the high levels in the north we are almost under 100......

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                          Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                          That comes as a surprise. However, this comparison here

                          How does Wales compare with other parts of the UK and Europe for Covid-19?


                          shows Wales is performing far worse on every performance indicator and not far better as you indicate but if you have any statistical evidence to verify your view then I would like to see it.
                          A lot has changed since that interview in December.
                          DID YOU KNOW... #Wales is currently the 4th best in the WORLD for the rolling rate of TOTAL vaccinations given against #COVID19 per population. Here's the graph from @UniofOxford below https://t.co/gHlKoO5tYn

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                            Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                            That comes as a surprise. However, this comparison here

                            How does Wales compare with other parts of the UK and Europe for Covid-19?


                            shows Wales is performing far worse on every performance indicator and not far better as you indicate but if you have any statistical evidence to verify your view then I would like to see it.
                            Did you just post something from over a month ago to show how Wales is performing now?

                            We've started a lockdown and had a vaccine being rolled out since that article FFS

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                              According to this statistical evidence for the seven days to 29th January 2021, every Welsh county was recording positive covid tests at a rate below the UK average.

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                                Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                                Did you just post something from over a month ago to show how Wales is performing now?

                                We've started a lockdown and had a vaccine being rolled out since that article FFS
                                From pretty much the only point in the whole pandemic that we were higher than England as well.

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