Ukraine Conflict Getting Very Close

[goats]

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Russia has the nuclear capability to turn the UK to dust many times over - the UK has the nuclear capability to turn Russia to dust once.

What about NATO? We hardly alone are we?

[Eric Cartman]

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Before anyone accuses me of being mean to the Tories - I completely accept that and will continue to do so, I would also add that Corbyn was in bed with the Russians, not financially but also theologically. Look at his absolutely stupid continued appearances on Russian TV.

What a fecking swamp our politics are.

Was he on the RT version of songs of praise?

[delmbox]

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Russia has the nuclear capability to turn the UK to dust many times over - the UK has the nuclear capability to turn Russia to dust once.

I'm not a military strategist but I'd have thought once is probably enough times to turn a country into dust isn't it?

Not that I think that's a good idea in any way shape or form

[Butterwick Blue]

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I'm not a military strategist but I'd have thought once is probably enough times to turn a country into dust isn't it?

Not that I think that's a good idea in any way shape or form

[AfricanBluebird]

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Was he on the RT version of songs of praise?

Yes he was singing those old Russian classics

'How Great Tsar Art' and 'Turn your eyes upon Joseph'

[StraightOuttaCanton]

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I'm not a military strategist but I'd have thought once is probably enough times to turn a country into dust isn't it?

Not that I think that's a good idea in any way shape or form

🤣… exactly my thoughts. I was chuckling as I scrolled through and was about to post something similar but you did a fine job 🤣

“We don’t like the dust that’s there… it might still have some life in it so we’ll nuke it a few more times for good measure”

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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I'm not a military strategist but I'd have thought once is probably enough times to turn a country into dust isn't it?

Not that I think that's a good idea in any way shape or form

Which was my point.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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��… exactly my thoughts. I was chuckling as I scrolled through and was about to post something similar but you did a fine job ��

“We don’t like the dust that’s there… it might still have some life in it so we’ll nuke it a few more times for good measure”

Another one who let it sail over their heads!

[The Hooded Claw]

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If Putin’s beef is that he doesn’t want a country bordering Russia to be in NATO, then invading Ukraine simply takes him to the border with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania - all NATO members. Plus, Russia already borders Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - all NATO members.
I strongly suspect that his motives are more linked to a restoration of Soviet era influence than so-called Russian security.
Besides which, using his rationale, Serbia, for example, could say that it is encircled by existing or potential NATO members and might therefore seek to occupy neighbouring countries, which is clearly ridiculous.
What a piece of Sh!t he is.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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If Putin’s beef is that he doesn’t want a country bordering Russia to be in NATO, then invading Ukraine simply takes him to the border with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania - all NATO members. Plus, Russia already borders Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - all NATO members.
I strongly suspect that his motives are more linked to a restoration of Soviet era influence than so-called Russian security.
Besides which, using his rationale, Serbia, for example, could say that it is encircled by existing or potential NATO members and might therefore seek to occupy neighbouring countries, which is clearly ridiculous.
What a piece of Sh!t he is.

There's more to it than Putin just wanting to turn the clock back. For over a decade he has been asking the USA, Nato, the EU, for talks on NATO's military expansion in eastern Europe. Because Russia has been viewed by the west as a 'busted flush', they've been given the political equivalent of the cold shoulder. Yes, he's a nasty piece of sh*t, but this isn't black and white. Oh, and Ukraine isn't the democratic idyll everyone is making out either.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

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Another one who let it sail over their heads!

Just a bit of light hearted relief. Just how I read the words. No offence intended.

Other than stating the obvious though, I’m not sure what point you were making

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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Just a bit of light hearted relief. Just how I read the words. No offence intended.

Other than stating the obvious though, I’m not sure what point you were making

The point that Russia has the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons and continues to add to it. There has to come a point when they need to ask themselves is there any need to keep increasing the amount they have?
The UK has far fewer nuclear weapons than Russia, however, in the event of a nuclear conflict the outcome would be the same... both countries turned to dust.

[The Hooded Claw]

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Putin’s a hypocrite. He says that Ukraine is not a proper country and yet the Soviets took Konigsberg from Germany at the end of the Second World War and renamed it Kaliningrad.
Are they going to give that back, then?

[life on mars]

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Made me chuckle :

Ben Wallace says Vladimir Putin 'gone full tonto'

[lardy]

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There's more to it than Putin just wanting to turn the clock back. For over a decade he has been asking the USA, Nato, the EU, for talks on NATO's military expansion in eastern Europe. Because Russia has been viewed by the west as a 'busted flush', they've been given the political equivalent of the cold shoulder. Yes, he's a nasty piece of sh*t, but this isn't black and white. Oh, and Ukraine isn't the democratic idyll everyone is making out either.

I've never seen Ukraine described as a democratic idyll.

I'm pretty sure this whole thing isn't because "everyone" thinks Ukraine is really nice.