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  • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

    Originally posted by goats View Post
    You know they already pay by far the most right? Is it the top 3% pay 90% of taxes or something mental like thatÂ…..we need to keep them fkin in not drive them out
    We’ve had two decades, at least, of “trickle down” taxation where tax cuts for the rich are supposed to lead to benefits for us plebs, what evidence is there that the policy has worked? If anything, the evidence is that it doesn’t - there’s nothing “mental” about the top 3 to 5 per cent funding the large majority of the tax bill, they can afford to because it’s an indisputable fact that the gap between the richest and poorest has grown in the 21st century - see highlighted section of link.

    https://www.jrf.org.uk/narrative-cha...ll%20back%20on.

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    • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

      Originally posted by goats View Post
      Your manifesto speech is sortedÂ….
      Its the only way

      Its a waste of time trying to educate far right voters now they have a party they can support

      If you dont want to be called a far right voter dont support or propagate a far right party

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      • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

        Even Tommy 10 names is claiming hes not far right.🤣

        Its dangerous and frightening times.

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        • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

          Originally posted by Hilts View Post
          Depressing.

          Straight out of Tommy 10 names book.
          Who?

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          • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

            Originally posted by Hilts View Post
            Your missing the point.

            They shouldn't be allowed to leave and avoid tax.

            Extreme wealth in this country is driving up house prices etc.

            But no your party supports tax reductions for the wealthy in private education while they piss off to Dubai where they are ex pats and not immigrants of course.
            Driving up house prices? BS it is….supply and demand. How many council houses have they built? F all…that’s how many. Stop letting so many in maybe? 1000’s of new homes in Cardiff, still 10,000 waiting

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            • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

              Originally posted by goats View Post
              Driving up house prices? BS it is….supply and demand. How many council houses have they built? F all…that’s how many. Stop letting so many in maybe? 1000’s of new homes in Cardiff, still 10,000 waiting
              Supply and demand.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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              • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                Even Tommy 10 names is claiming hes not far right.��

                Its dangerous and frightening times.
                He's a journalist now yenno

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                • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                  Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                  He's a journalist now yenno
                  Journalist my posterior. Rabble rouser extraordinaire and former football thug

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                  • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                    Originally posted by goats View Post
                    Who?
                    Tommy Shithead

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                    • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                      Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                      Supply and demand.����������
                      Afraid that’s the truth Hilts, I’ve been involved in housing for almost 30 years now, bought and renovated, sold, kept a few so there’s not much I don’t know about the housing market. I trust you know who is quietly buying up lots of housing stock right now as Government policy slowly forcing up older landlords to sell up and making it near impossible for any young investors anyway?

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                      • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                        Originally posted by goats View Post
                        Afraid that’s the truth Hilts, I’ve been involved in housing for almost 30 years now, bought and renovated, sold, kept a few so there’s not much I don’t know about the housing market. I trust you know who is quietly buying up lots of housing stock right now as Government policy slowly forcing up older landlords to sell up and making it near impossible for any young investors anyway?
                        Corporations want to own everybody on a subscription basis so its no surprise that housing has become the new grift.

                        But making every non-corporate landlord 'mom and pop' isn't a fair representation of the problems that already existed in the private rental system, for a start, transparency around local prices is shit and the industry thrives on this lack of information, and even in the case of decent private landlords, letting agents are usually just a layer of twat in between two decent reasonable people. Government policy has been to drive house prices up while wages stagnate. As usual its a mess created by loads of different things all pushing it to be worse and worse.

                        And now, the people who cheered these things on as they happened, tell you that the problems faced today are solely down to the growth in population caused by migration.

                        Housing is a supply and demand game (at a local level) but demand is created on a computer via debt and exacerbated by government policy designed to create debt and keep demand high, every scheme that purports to 'give youngsters a leg up' is just another angle to lumber them with more debt and keep prices from crashing down to genuinely affordable levels.

                        Local services are stronger if the people delivering them can afford to live locally, this is what should be driving government policy. Where I am from, a couple (let's say teacher and police officer), would not be able to be able to buy a two bed house and live comfortably without moving 20+ miles away and commuting.

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                        • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                          Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                          Corporations want to own everybody on a subscription basis so its no surprise that housing has become the new grift.

                          But making every non-corporate landlord 'mom and pop' isn't a fair representation of the problems that already existed in the private rental system, for a start, transparency around local prices is shit and the industry thrives on this lack of information, and even in the case of decent private landlords, letting agents are usually just a layer of twat in between two decent reasonable people. Government policy has been to drive house prices up while wages stagnate. As usual its a mess created by loads of different things all pushing it to be worse and worse.

                          And now, the people who cheered these things on as they happened, tell you that the problems faced today are solely down to the growth in population caused by migration.

                          Housing is a supply and demand game (at a local level) but demand is created on a computer via debt and exacerbated by government policy designed to create debt and keep demand high, every scheme that purports to 'give youngsters a leg up' is just another angle to lumber them with more debt and keep prices from crashing down to genuinely affordable levels.

                          Local services are stronger if the people delivering them can afford to live locally, this is what should be driving government policy. Where I am from, a couple (let's say teacher and police officer), would not be able to be able to buy a two bed house and live comfortably without moving 20+ miles away and commuting.
                          Private landlords should never have been allowed to have been involved in supplying primary homes, it's a specialist job and, as it used to be, it should have been left to councils and now housing associations.

                          It requires big bucks and institutional oversight. It should never ever have been an option for profit. There may be a case for second home and the luxury rental market but nothing else.

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                          • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                            Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                            The Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians (collectively known as Anglo-Saxons when they came to these islands) all spoke versions of what is considered to be the West Germanic language group (and which English is considered to be part of today).
                            Old Norse is considered to be part of the North Germanic language group.
                            no. they knew themselves as Anglisc or ænglecynn. As the language they spoke was Ingvaeonic, after the tribe that lived on the North Sea Coast. Old Norse was North Germanic, and the Dane and Saxon could understand each other as there was a high degree of mutual intelligibility especially around the time of the Danelaw. much the same an speaker of the West Frisian dialect would be able to understand spoken old english today...see next

                            a few videos for you, I follow this guy, and he's full of interesting facts





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                            • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                              Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                              Corporations want to own everybody on a subscription basis so its no surprise that housing has become the new grift.

                              But making every non-corporate landlord 'mom and pop' isn't a fair representation of the problems that already existed in the private rental system, for a start, transparency around local prices is shit and the industry thrives on this lack of information, and even in the case of decent private landlords, letting agents are usually just a layer of twat in between two decent reasonable people. Government policy has been to drive house prices up while wages stagnate. As usual its a mess created by loads of different things all pushing it to be worse and worse.

                              And now, the people who cheered these things on as they happened, tell you that the problems faced today are solely down to the growth in population caused by migration.

                              Housing is a supply and demand game (at a local level) but demand is created on a computer via debt and exacerbated by government policy designed to create debt and keep demand high, every scheme that purports to 'give youngsters a leg up' is just another angle to lumber them with more debt and keep prices from crashing down to genuinely affordable levels.

                              Local services are stronger if the people delivering them can afford to live locally, this is what should be driving government policy. Where I am from, a couple (let's say teacher and police officer), would not be able to be able to buy a two bed house and live comfortably without moving 20+ miles away and commuting.
                              Yo make some valid points. The amount of flats being built now just go rent not to own is another marker of how things are going.
                              Plenty in Cardiff too which is trying to emulate Manchester it seems. Interestingly, 30 years ago in the population of the centre of Manchester was 1000, now it’s 100,000! Cardiff might aswell continue along this street as there seems little need for shops anymore.
                              Sometimes Government policy interventions can have detrimental affects, like the Welsh Gov in Pembrokeshire for ie….
                              The economic powerhouse that is the WAG decided that a few locals couldn’t afford to buy a starter home out west, of course this wasn’t true but they decided to change the rules for holiday lets (that’s business that are open to holiday makers not just wealthy people 2nd homes, there’s is a massive difference). So, in order to stay on business rates ( zero council tax) you had to be let for 182 nights of the year, it was 70 and still is in England. Around half don’t make it, as who goes to stay by the sea apart from the main summer months so they now pay a premium of 2 or 300% council tax, about £700 a month. Many decided to sell up, others switched to long term tenants.
                              What the WAG didn’t expect was for so many to come on to the market at one time, prices plummeted (£100,000 off mine alone in a few months). Wonderful eh? Great stuff now those few locals looking can afford one? It wasn’t just holiday lets that went down but all houses naturally. My cousins lad who is about 23 was working as a chippy, most of there work was in the off season was on holiday lets that were empty. Most of that work came to a halt and he was laid off so now he can’t afford to buy a house anyway…..less holiday lets, less cleaning jobs, less laundromats, less gardners, less bar staff it just goes on in a place where some business shut down from October to May anyway…
                              People who were most affected seem to be locals too, quite a few I know had a second homes nearby and ran it as a business, now they are struggling with huge council tax bills. Tried to sell but no buyers. As too are farmers, encouraged to diversify 20 years ago and turn old abandoned buildings into holiday accommodation, some made 6/7/8 units. Each now costs £600 a month. One farmer who I know a few miles away, changed his back to pig sty’s and ripped out the kitchens and lounges…..
                              All this extra tax was brought in to fund the building of new starter homes in an area with 98% farmland, guess how many theyve started to build?

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                              • Re: Reform , Ready To Rule , BBC 2 Tonight

                                Originally posted by goats View Post
                                Yo make some valid points. The amount of flats being built now just go rent not to own is another marker of how things are going.
                                Plenty in Cardiff too which is trying to emulate Manchester it seems. Interestingly, 30 years ago in the population of the centre of Manchester was 1000, now itÂ’s 100,000! Cardiff might aswell continue along this street as there seems little need for shops anymore.
                                Sometimes Government policy interventions can have detrimental affects, like the Welsh Gov in Pembrokeshire for ieÂ….
                                The economic powerhouse that is the WAG decided that a few locals couldn’t afford to buy a starter home out west, of course this wasn’t true but they decided to change the rules for holiday lets (that’s business that are open to holiday makers not just wealthy people 2nd homes, there’s is a massive difference). So, in order to stay on business rates ( zero council tax) you had to be let for 182 nights of the year, it was 70 and still is in England. Around half don’t make it, as who goes to stay by the sea apart from the main summer months so they now pay a premium of 2 or 300% council tax, about £700 a month. Many decided to sell up, others switched to long term tenants.
                                What the WAG didn’t expect was for so many to come on to the market at one time, prices plummeted (£100,000 off mine alone in a few months). Wonderful eh? Great stuff now those few locals looking can afford one? It wasn’t just holiday lets that went down but all houses naturally. My cousins lad who is about 23 was working as a chippy, most of there work was in the off season was on holiday lets that were empty. Most of that work came to a halt and he was laid off so now he can’t afford to buy a house anyway…..less holiday lets, less cleaning jobs, less laundromats, less gardners, less bar staff it just goes on in a place where some business shut down from October to May anyway…
                                People who were most affected seem to be locals too, quite a few I know had a second homes nearby and ran it as a business, now they are struggling with huge council tax bills. Tried to sell but no buyers. As too are farmers, encouraged to diversify 20 years ago and turn old abandoned buildings into holiday accommodation, some made 6/7/8 units. Each now costs £600 a month. One farmer who I know a few miles away, changed his back to pig sty’s and ripped out the kitchens and lounges…..
                                All this extra tax was brought in to fund the building of new starter homes in an area with 98% farmland, guess how many theyve started to build?
                                That's quite an informative post Goats and I believe it's in your line of expertise / work, it'll probably earn you the award from Sludge and his commie criminal supporting squad of being a far right ist of some sort.

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