Loan Report

[jon1959]

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No not at all. I had a quick look around last night to see if he's injured but I can't see any mention of it. Interesting that we didn't bring him back in January even though the option was there and we're fairly short in that area. I mentioned in the Academy thread yesterday that Dakarai Mafico didn't travel with the Wales under-19 squad this week (along with Lawlor and Giles). If we've brought him into the first team squad as cover having turned down the chance to take Wintle back then that doesn't seem to say much for Wintle's standing here. I don't know all the ins and outs of that though so I'm wary of jumping to the wrong conclusions.

I agree.

But if Wintle was recalled from Millwall he would have had to take up one of the 25 first team squad places (24 currently filled with one vacant slot kept in case emergency free agent cover needed?).

With Mafico (I think I'm right) he does not use up a squad place - so a slightly different calculation by the club and manager.

With no evidence I am sure that the wage 'burden' is different too.

[Loramski]

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I agree.

But if Wintle was recalled from Millwall he would have had to take up one of the 25 first team squad places (24 currently filled with one vacant slot kept in case emergency free agent cover needed?).

With Mafico (I think I'm right) he does not use up a squad place - so a slightly different calculation by the club and manager.

With no evidence I am sure that the wage 'burden' is different too.

Like I said to TLG, there's not a lot of point in me speculating about all this, it'd just be guesswork. I was a bit surprised when I heard we hadn't filled the 25 spots, especially with all the injuries we've got and still being in the cup. I'd seen Conte was being used in the under-21s and half expected to see him drafted in as full back/wing cover but that didn't happen, I could've understood us bringing Wintle back but that didn't either. Maybe we had another move lined up for transfer deadline day or maybe Riza's right and it was always the plan to go in with 24, who knows?

I don't know if Mafico (and Lawlor) have been brought into the squad but if Riza is confident enough in our youngsters to have them as the back up then credit to him, as far as I'm concerned. It's far from perfect here, of course, but it feels like he's trying to do the right things even under the pressure of a relegation battle and hopefully that will pay dividends in both the short and the long term.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Kortrijk are looking for their 3rd manager of the season.

[Loramski]

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Kortrijk are looking for their 3rd manager of the season.

I mentioned about a year ago on here how Peter Crouch said in one of his books that however hard you try as a footballer a lot of how things turn out comes down to luck. Sometimes you just find yourself in the right place at the right time and I applied that to Isaak Davies' loan at Kortrijk. Everything was working out for him there, the team turned their season around and eventually stayed up, Ryotaro Tsunoda was enjoying his football and spending time with Isaak, picking up the language and learning about Cardiff, the manager was enhancing his reputation, the fans must've been buzzing at the turn around. Everyone a winner.

What a difference the last few months has made for all of them. As Tracey Thorn wrote

'Tempting to think it will all be plain sailing, old enough now to know there's no such thing'

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I mentioned about a year ago on here how Peter Crouch said in one of his books that however hard you try as a footballer a lot of how things turn out comes down to luck. Sometimes you just find yourself in the right place at the right time and I applied that to Isaak Davies' loan at Kortrijk. Everything was working out for him there, the team turned their season around and eventually stayed up, Ryotaro Tsunoda was enjoying his football and spending time with Isaak, picking up the language and learning about Cardiff, the manager was enhancing his reputation, the fans must've been buzzing at the turn around. Everyone a winner.

What a difference the last few months has made for all of them. As Tracey Thorn wrote

'Tempting to think it will all be plain sailing, old enough now to know there's no such thing'

He's lucky alright he wouldn't be married to Abbey Clancy if he was a Plumber.

[Loramski]

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He's lucky alright he wouldn't be married to Abbey Clancy if he was a Plumber.

It's true though, luck plays its part for all of us. If you hadn't been a City fan then you and TLG would never have become friends. God moves in mysterious ways.

[RichardM]

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He's lucky alright he wouldn't be married to Abbey Clancy if he was a Plumber.

He'd be a virgin, as he said when asked "what would you be if you weren't a footballer?"

[FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead]

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Didn't Wintle supposedly leave because Bulut refused to guarantee him playing time? Two sides to every story and all that, but if that's true, talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm pretty sure Riza also alluded to it when he was asked about him coming back in January.

[olderblue]

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Didn't Wintle supposedly leave because Bulut refused to guarantee him playing time? Two sides to every story and all that, but if that's true, talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'm pretty sure Riza also alluded to it when he was asked about him coming back in January.

Best thing for Wintle to do is to move on at the end of the season, he’s never going to force his way into the current squad, never mind the starting line up.

Wintle is probably half decent in a league one team, he just doesn’t have enough about him to be a starter in a Championship side imho

[Loramski]

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I'm not sure if it's possible for Mike to introduce a theme tune for these loan reports, or maybe some background music, just to improve the experience for readers. I mean, there's only so times I can say 'Jake Dennis didn't get off the bench for Oldham' without people's eyes glazing over so it would be a positive step. Saying that, I guess it would've got repetitive listening to 'Simply the Best' every week when Etien Velikonja was at Lierse but what else would've been appropriate?

Anyway, Ten Green Bottles would be the music of choice for this week as our ten loaned out players accidentally fell one by one to leave me virtually nothing to report on. Jake Dennis didn't get off the bench for Oldham, same for Eli King and Ryan Wintle as Stevenage and Millwall picked up away wins. Kion Etete and Kieron Evans are injured and, while I wish him all the best, I expect Ryotaro Tsunoda will be too for Kortrijk's game later today. Michael Reindorf was a late sub for Bristol Rovers as they lost at Northampton and Baylin Johnson an even later one as Maidstone beat Bath 3-0. Even Joe Thomas can't save the day this week as Yate's game with Westbury isn't till Monday.

Joel Colwill did get 78 minutes for Exeter but a miserable 3-0 defeat at Charlton is probably best forgotten. For some reason, Exeter didn't have a keeper on the bench yesterday but with Josh Magennis in the team they're covered for that anyway.

While Malachi Fagan-Walcott is no longer our player, he's a useful standby for quiet weeks like this. I wonder what Malachi is making of the injury situation here. Having left, probably seeing no chance of ever making the first team, he must be wondering where he'd stand now if he was still here. Not only would he have been in with a chance of playing on a regular basis but, the way things are going, he might have been captain in a week or two. An eventful game for York yesterday as Halifax looked to avenge an injury-time defeat at the Shay earlier in the season. They started well, going 2-0 up inside three minutes, but York got one back and it was 2-1 at 90 minutes. York then had a player sent off but still managed to equalise ten minutes into injury time for a 2-2 draw. Barnet won though so York now trail them by nine points at the top of the National League.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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I'm not sure if it's possible for Mike to introduce a theme tune for these loan reports, or maybe some background music, just to improve the experience for readers. I mean, there's only so times I can say 'Jake Dennis didn't get off the bench for Oldham' without people's eyes glazing over so it would be a positive step. Saying that, I guess it would've got repetitive listening to 'Simply the Best' every week when Etien Velikonja was at Lierse but what else would've been appropriate?

Anyway, Ten Green Bottles would be the music of choice for this week as our ten loaned out players accidentally fell one by one to leave me virtually nothing to report on. Jake Dennis didn't get off the bench for Oldham, same for Eli King and Ryan Wintle as Stevenage and Millwall picked up away wins. Kion Etete and Kieron Evans are injured and, while I wish him all the best, I expect Ryotaro Tsunoda will be too for Kortrijk's game later today. Michael Reindorf was a late sub for Bristol Rovers as they lost at Northampton and Baylin Johnson an even later one as Maidstone beat Bath 3-0. Even Joe Thomas can't save the day this week as Yate's game with Westbury isn't till Monday.

Joel Colwill did get 78 minutes for Exeter but a miserable 3-0 defeat at Charlton is probably best forgotten. For some reason, Exeter didn't have a keeper on the bench yesterday but with Josh Magennis in the team they're covered for that anyway.

While Malachi Fagan-Walcott is no longer our player, he's a useful standby for quiet weeks like this. I wonder what Malachi is making of the injury situation here. Having left, probably seeing no chance of ever making the first team, he must be wondering where he'd stand now if he was still here. Not only would he have been in with a chance of playing on a regular basis but, the way things are going, he might have been captain in a week or two. An eventful game for York yesterday as Halifax looked to avenge an injury-time defeat at the Shay earlier in the season. They started well, going 2-0 up inside three minutes, but York got one back and it was 2-1 at 90 minutes. York then had a player sent off but still managed to equalise ten minutes into injury time for a 2-2 draw. Barnet won though so York now trail them by nine points at the top of the National League.

Tsunoda starts for Kortrijk. Could be a twist in the tail of this week's report...

[Loramski]

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Tsunoda starts for Kortrijk. Could be a twist in the tail of this week's report...

Fingers crossed. As long as he doesn't sprint or try and tackle anyone he should last an hour. No, hopefully he can put his injury problems behind him now. Good luck to him.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Fingers crossed. As long as he doesn't sprint or try and tackle anyone he should last an hour. No, hopefully he can put his injury problems behind him now. Good luck to him.

Ah, the way of the Kanga!

[Rjk]

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Tsunoda starts for Kortrijk. Could be a twist in the tail of this week's report...

seems like he played well, they were heading towards a much needed victory but cercle Bruges scored with their only shot of the game in the 89th minute

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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seems like he played well, they were heading towards a much needed victory but cercle Bruges scored with their only shot of the game in the 89th minute

After he'd gone off (hopefully not injured!).