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  • Re: Attendances holding up well

    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    So, what do you think are more important? Impressions or facts?
    Facts as in what he actually said.

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    • Re: Attendances holding up well

      Originally posted by Mr Ducie View Post
      The last 16 years have been very good. Historically there have been impressive attendance figures particularly between 1946 and 1955 with some attendance figures over 60,000. FA Cup games with Leeds in 72, Everton in 78 ? Hereford in 76 ? And we hold the Third Division South attendance record of over 49,200
      Right. So you're agreeing with me that City have often had the ability to draw big crowds for isolated games. We all know that. But maintaining such attendances? A different story altogether. And comparisons to other clubs? Not so impressive.

      Also, I think 'very good' is pushing it for the last 16 years....

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      • Re: Attendances holding up well

        Originally posted by Mr Ducie View Post
        Facts as in what he actually said.
        Are you a Trump supporter perchance?

        The fact that somebody says something doesn't make it true.

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        • Re: Attendances holding up well

          Originally posted by delmbox View Post
          I'm calling him media trained and not stupid TWG1. I'm also pretty sure that when a manager says that the fans of his current club are the best in the world they don't necessarily mean it. No harm in it, they're just playing the game
          sheep sheep your a liar

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          • Re: Attendances holding up well

            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
            Right. So you're agreeing with me that City have often had the ability to draw big crowds for isolated games. We all know that. But maintaining such attendances? A different story altogether. And comparisons to other clubs? Not so impressive.

            Also, I think 'very good' is pushing it for the last 16 years....
            Looking at the data we are the 34th best supported club in terms of support, mid table championship,yet we have only been in the top flight twice in 70 years.

            Have out attendances ever been inflated by large away support like other clubs in Lancashire, Yorkshire, midlands and the South East , probably not.

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            • Re: Attendances holding up well

              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
              Are you a Trump supporter perchance?

              The fact that somebody says something doesn't make it true.
              What’s politics got to do with attendance figures

              Are you a trump supporter?

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              • Re: Attendances holding up well

                Originally posted by Mr Ducie View Post
                Looking at the data we are the 34th best supported club in terms of support, mid table championship....
                Exactly what I said earlier in this thread, but that was apparently talking the club down...

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                • Re: Attendances holding up well

                  Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                  Exactly what I said earlier in this thread, but that was apparently talking the club down...
                  You also said the club was not as big as some supporters think it is. I think you’re wrong so have tried to offer some perspective.

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                  • Re: Attendances holding up well

                    Originally posted by Mr Ducie View Post
                    You also said the club was not as big as some supporters think they are. I think you’re wrong so have tried to offer some perspective.
                    I said: "In terms of attendances, Cardiff City is a mid-ranking second tier club with the potential to attract reasonably big attendances for occasional games."

                    You have subsequently suggested that, in terms of attendances, Cardiff City is a mid-ranking second tier club with the potential to attract reasonably big attendances for occasional games.

                    I also said: "It's a big club by League One standards, but not as big as some people seem to believe."

                    You apparently believe that's not true, but I'm certain it is. Here's my logic:

                    The following are the top three average attendances for League One in each of the last five seasons:

                    2021/22:

                    33,062 - Sunderland
                    22,908 - Sheffield Wednesday
                    21,779 - Ipswich Town

                    2022/23:

                    27,259 - Derby County
                    26,184 - Ipswich Town
                    25,647 - Sheffield Wednesday

                    2023/24:

                    27,278 - Derby County
                    23,193 - Bolton Wanderers
                    18,953 - Portsmouth

                    2024/25:

                    26,326 - Birmingham City
                    21,325 - Bolton Wanderers
                    18,817 - Huddersfield Town

                    2025/26 (at present):

                    21,853 - Bolton Wanderers
                    20,588 - Bradford City
                    18,898 - Cardiff City

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                    • Re: Attendances holding up well

                      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                      I said: "In terms of attendances, Cardiff City is a mid-ranking second tier club with the potential to attract reasonably big attendances for occasional games."

                      You have subsequently suggested that, in terms of attendances, Cardiff City is a mid-ranking second tier club with the potential to attract reasonably big attendances for occasional games.

                      I also said: "It's a big club by League One standards, but not as big as some people seem to believe."

                      You apparently believe that's not true, but I'm certain it is. Here's my logic:

                      The following are the top three average attendances for League One in each of the last five seasons:

                      2021/22:

                      33,062 - Sunderland
                      22,908 - Sheffield Wednesday
                      21,779 - Ipswich Town

                      2022/23:

                      27,259 - Derby County
                      26,184 - Ipswich Town
                      25,647 - Sheffield Wednesday

                      2023/24:

                      27,278 - Derby County
                      23,193 - Bolton Wanderers
                      18,953 - Portsmouth

                      2024/25:

                      26,326 - Birmingham City
                      21,325 - Bolton Wanderers
                      18,817 - Huddersfield Town

                      2025/26 (at present):

                      21,853 - Bolton Wanderers
                      20,588 - Bradford City
                      18,898 - Cardiff City


                      Perspective

                      Ipswich were offering free season tickets to juniors as were Bradford and Huddersfield.

                      Nobody is saying Cardiff is bigger than Sunderland Sheffield Wednesday and recently long established Premier League club Bolton.

                      Bolton are pretty moderate looking at the data we

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                      • Re: Attendances holding up well

                        Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                        I said: "In terms of attendances, Cardiff City is a mid-ranking second tier club with the potential to attract reasonably big attendances for occasional games."

                        You have subsequently suggested that, in terms of attendances, Cardiff City is a mid-ranking second tier club with the potential to attract reasonably big attendances for occasional games.

                        I also said: "It's a big club by League One standards, but not as big as some people seem to believe."

                        You apparently believe that's not true, but I'm certain it is. Here's my logic:

                        The following are the top three average attendances for League One in each of the last five seasons:

                        2021/22:

                        33,062 - Sunderland
                        22,908 - Sheffield Wednesday
                        21,779 - Ipswich Town

                        2022/23:

                        27,259 - Derby County
                        26,184 - Ipswich Town
                        25,647 - Sheffield Wednesday

                        2023/24:

                        27,278 - Derby County
                        23,193 - Bolton Wanderers
                        18,953 - Portsmouth

                        2024/25:

                        26,326 - Birmingham City
                        21,325 - Bolton Wanderers
                        18,817 - Huddersfield Town

                        2025/26 (at present):

                        21,853 - Bolton Wanderers
                        20,588 - Bradford City
                        18,898 - Cardiff City
                        Facts are facts, there are bigger supported clubs, mostly because there is feck all else to do in most of them.

                        We are a decent-sized club, in a City where football has a lot of competition from other sports and attractions, which has an impact on attendance.

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                        • Re: Attendances holding up well

                          Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                          Facts are facts, there are bigger supported clubs, mostly because there is feck all else to do in most of them.

                          We are a decent-sized club, in a City where football has a lot of competition from other sports and attractions, which has an impact on attendance.
                          not really much to do with there being any more to do in Cardiff than any other similarly sized city - more that we were stuck in the lower leagues for 20 years at the same time there was a massive boom in watching football on TV

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                          • Re: Attendances holding up well

                            Originally posted by Mr Ducie View Post
                            Nobody is saying Cardiff is bigger than Sunderland Sheffield Wednesday and recently long established Premier League club Bolton.

                            Bolton are pretty moderate looking at the data
                            In a thread a couple of weeks ago, some contributors were literally saying that playing Cardiff would be the biggest game most League One clubs have had in years.

                            As for Bolton, are you daring to suggest that a club which has had higher attendances than us for the last three seasons (two of which they spent in League One while we were in the Championship) are just 'pretty moderate'? If so, stop talking Cardiff City down!

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                            • Re: Attendances holding up well

                              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                              In a thread a couple of weeks ago, some contributors were literally saying that playing Cardiff would be the biggest game most League One clubs have had in years.

                              As for Bolton, are you daring to suggest that a club which has had higher attendances than us for the last three seasons (two of which they spent in League One while we were in the Championship) are just 'pretty moderate'? If so, stop talking Cardiff City down!

                              The whole debate is not about three seasons though is it

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                              • Re: Attendances holding up well

                                Originally posted by Mr Ducie View Post
                                The whole debate is not about three seasons though is it
                                I literally have no idea what the debate (if it can be described as such) actually is, at least where you're concerned.

                                You've spent half of this thread agreeing with me while telling me I'm wrong.

                                In another thread, you suggested that my brain is wired differently to yours. I'm just thankful for small mercies.

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