Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

[JamesWales]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Let's go with it then Jim. Immigration has contributed towards these riots, and spin off issues (Whatever that means) Nothing to do with services being stripped back to nothing, an education system not fir for purpose, an NHS on it's knees, a job market that suits the bosses, zero hour, gig economy. Poor housing stock and not enough of them, cost of living. Then we can look towards a disgraceful media who like to stoke things up, get hits, make people at the arse end of society even more angry, desperate, A political class who have spouted viscous populist rhetoric, knew what they were doing and to hell with the fall out. You know what i'm saying here Jim. Yet it's all down to immigration. That's why the people committing these crimes have attacked, burnt and beaten. Where's the balance Jim, where's the nuanced opinion now? It doesn't suit your argument jim, you only use it when you're attempting to belittle other posters opinion that don't fall into line with yours.

You are coming up with a set of background reasoning there. How is that different to me agreeing with the guy who tackled the killer in Southport?

[JamesWales]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Maybe he thinks you aren’t talking about the issue sensibly.

Things have moved on in the last ten days James, decades of goading by certain newspapers and media and political personalities plus certain TV channels in recent years have come home to roost. This isn’t the sort of message board toing and frowing we’ve seen on here for years where accusations of racism are thrown about too easily, what we’re seeing now is the real thing - everything that has happened since the Southport riot has been about the colour of people’s skin plain and simple, if you can’t or won’t recognise that, you’ve lost the argument before it started.

Maybe he does. But I am just agreeing with the guy in the interview that there are underlying issues and that this was sparked by Southport but it wasn't the core cause of it all.

I would say the same about the London riots in 2011. Not everyone rioting then did so because they felt sympathy for Mark Duggan. You would no doubt say the same about BLM riots in america a few years ago (I am talking specifically about riots not the Peaceful protests that greatly outnumbered them).

Theres a host of underlying issues that are susceptible to sparks to expose them.

These things don't happen in isolation. There is no justification for them and I would throw the book at them harder than many would, but that doesn't mean there are never causes, reasons, however unjustified as a reason for violence they may be

[JamesWales]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Have I got this wrong the kid arrested for the Southport murders was born in Cardiff?

That doesn't have anything to do with what I said.

[Dorcus]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

The underlying issues are the highly dangerous motives of the evil people stoking this unrest on social media and it has an international dimension.

Agent provocateurs directing and manipulating the rage of the feeble minded are the real villains of the piece and they are promoting a sickening agenda. It's no coincidence that evil Dr No Musk is predicting that the UK is headed for civil war. That's exactly the scenario a sinister group want to see developing in all major countries. Putin has input and an obvious interest in this too.

[jon1959]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Nearly 9.00 and Sheffield has had an evening anti-racist counter protest of 400+ but no-one so far to counter protest against.

The Yaxley-Lennon/Farage fan boys and girls have given it a swerve!

[Dorcus]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Nearly 9.00 and Sheffield has had an evening anti-racist counter protest of 400+ but no-one so far to counter protest against.

The Yaxley-Lennon/Farage fan boys and girls have given it a swerve!

They don't like the stiff sentences up 'em Cap'n Mainwaring

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

That doesn't have anything to do with what I said.

I'm slow tonight (don't you dare say it) but the underlying cause for the murders in Southport is what then?

In regards to the underlying cause for these 'riots', it's racism, ignorance snd ****ing stupidity stoked up by gobshite opportunists who have chosen to use a tragic event caused by unknown reasons to promote their own agenda.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

I'm slow tonight (don't you dare say it) but the underlying cause for the murders in Southport is what then?

In regards to the underlying cause for these 'riots', it's racism, ignorance snd ****ing stupidity stoked up by gobshite opportunists who have chosen to use a tragic event caused by unknown reasons to promote their own agenda.

No you have got this wrong, nobody cares about the underlying causes of the murder of the 3 girls, not even the guy who risked his life saving people mentioned it. How a 17 year old lad brought up in this country ends up deciding to kill 3 little girls at a dance party isn't interesting at all.

We.must.talk.about.immigration.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Apparently there was an ARMY of true British people with the flag of St George ready to save the country

But they crapped it and stayed at home

[JamesWales]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

I'm slow tonight (don't you dare say it) but the underlying cause for the murders in Southport is what then?

In regards to the underlying cause for these 'riots', it's racism, ignorance snd ****ing stupidity stoked up by gobshite opportunists who have chosen to use a tragic event caused by unknown reasons to promote their own agenda.

It's in respect of this interview which someone posted earlier. It's with the guy who intervened in the stabbing to stop the killer killing more children. Essentially, I think he has a point.

https://x.com/archrose90/status/1821139413566378330?s=61&t=opXYWu2ILhmySD2aRt-GNg

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Fair play to the Bristolians, not usually my favourite people. Out in their thousands to counter these Nazis.

Yep

It's a far more organised city than Cardiff with regard to this sort of thing although the fash always have a hard time here

[Tuerto]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Yep

It's a far more organised city than Cardiff with regard to this sort of thing although the fash always have a hard time here

The Fascists have always been dealt with in Cardiff Sludge, you know that.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

Getting our country back to when it was a better time. oldtimey-clown.gif

https://x.com/twisted__kidney/status/1820555422354256054

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

It's in respect of this interview which someone posted earlier. It's with the guy who intervened in the stabbing to stop the killer killing more children. Essentially, I think he has a point.

https://x.com/archrose90/status/1821...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

Not going to question the lads actions as he's a bonafide hero.

I will question him giving the opportunistic waankers credence in discussing a causal link between events on an issue which may or may not be relevant?

At it stands, immigration wasn't the cause of Southport.

Until knowing what factors that have caused Southport murders anything else at this moment is rumour, conjecture and misinformation, which has obviously been used for some to promote their own wider agendas and led to these riots.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Racist, fascists, knuckle dragging, un-educated

The Fascists have always been dealt with in Cardiff Sludge, you know that.

Of course but I think Bristol is more on it

More of a left field , liberal city